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  • How many great wins does Canelo have?

    Apart from the controversial victories against GGG, he's yet to beat any great boxer (Kovalev doesn't count).

    Also, two questionable decisions on his resume apart from GGG.

  • #2
    Zero. Questionable decisions against good fighters aren't great wins. Great wins are dominating wins against great fighters which Canelo has never done.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post
      Zero. Questionable decisions against good fighters aren't great wins. Great wins are dominating wins against great fighters which Canelo has never done.
      The boy is overrated.

      They're about to feed him another Eurobum to beat up to pad up the resume, lol.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Gandhi View Post

        The boy is overrated.

        They're about to feed him another Eurobum to beat up to pad up the resume, lol.
        That's why he's been going on a European tour for years now and doesn't plan on ever returning.

        GGG was overrated, and he still didn't even beat him cleanly, I didn't think he beat him at all. Danny Jacobs was probably the best fighter Canelo beat without controversy, but Danny Jacobs isn't great, he struggled with Ishe Smith, dropped by Sergio Mora, brutally KOd by Pirog, life and death with Sulecki, and now we done seen that Rosado beat him. That's Canelo's best win.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post
          Zero. Questionable decisions against good fighters aren't great wins. Great wins are dominating wins against great fighters which Canelo has never done.
          You don't always have to dominate for it to be a great victory. I had Duran beating Leonard by only 1 point in their first meeting and that's absolutely a great win.

          As for OP's question:

          -Lara. Tough fight but Canelo won decisively. And coming into the fight Lara was practically undefeated as the Williams fight was a BAD robbery
          -Austin trout. Undefeated champ and would later be a solid gatekeeper
          -Cotto. Past his prime but still well accomplished and would at least get a paper title in his next fight. Lineal champ.
          -GGG. The boogeyman who was expected to KO him but failed
          -Kovalev. Jumped up 2 weight classes, and although past his prime, it was a TWO weight class jump. And he was still world champ.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by LeOoze View Post

            You don't always have to dominate for it to be a great victory. I had Duran beating Leonard by only 1 point in their first meeting and that's absolutely a great win.

            As for OP's question:

            -Lara. Tough fight but Canelo won decisively. And coming into the fight Lara was practically undefeated as the Williams fight was a BAD robbery
            -Austin trout. Undefeated champ and would later be a solid gatekeeper
            -Cotto. Past his prime but still well accomplished and would at least get a paper title in his next fight. Lineal champ.
            -GGG. The boogeyman who was expected to KO him but failed
            -Kovalev. Jumped up 2 weight classes, and although past his prime, it was a TWO weight class jump. And he was still world champ.
            Yes but Duran and Leonard are ATGs, GGG, Lara, Trout are nowhere near all time greats

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            • #7
              Many more than Bum slayer Julio Cesar Chavez SR has. That dude is no better than his bum son.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post

                That's why he's been going on a European tour for years now and doesn't plan on ever returning.

                GGG was overrated, and he still didn't even beat him cleanly, I didn't think he beat him at all. Danny Jacobs was probably the best fighter Canelo beat without controversy, but Danny Jacobs isn't great, he struggled with Ishe Smith, dropped by Sergio Mora, brutally KOd by Pirog, life and death with Sulecki, and now we done seen that Rosado beat him. That's Canelo's best win.
                Danny Jacob was never great but he just has a great story due to being from Brownsville like Tyson, Bowe & Briggs. And he survived a deadly cancer. Canelo gets a lot of credit because he looks white & that's the same reason why GGG was hyped for being a weight bully without fighting anyone.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post

                  Yes but Duran and Leonard are ATGs, GGG, Lara, Trout are nowhere near all time greats
                  I agree that none of them are ATG's or close but they were the guys to beat at their respective weight classes. I know GGG was always kind of seen as a hypejob boogeyman during his reign, but Lara was rated very highly when he fought Canelo.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LeOoze View Post

                    You don't always have to dominate for it to be a great victory. I had Duran beating Leonard by only 1 point in their first meeting and that's absolutely a great win.

                    As for OP's question:

                    -Lara. Tough fight but Canelo won decisively. And coming into the fight Lara was practically undefeated as the Williams fight was a BAD robbery
                    -Austin trout. Undefeated champ and would later be a solid gatekeeper
                    -Cotto. Past his prime but still well accomplished and would at least get a paper title in his next fight. Lineal champ.
                    -GGG. The boogeyman who was expected to KO him but failed
                    -Kovalev. Jumped up 2 weight classes, and although past his prime, it was a TWO weight class jump. And he was still world champ.
                    Lost to Lara & Trout but was gifted the decision on both occasions.

                    Cotto was past his prime & a shell of himself.

                    Kovalev was past his prime & weight drained. Heck, the same Kovalev almost got knocked out by an inexperienced bum.

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