Why Are People Acting like Golovkin is Washed Up?

[just the facts]

Save me this BS that Canelo needs to justify his opponent choices, after all he's done up to this point. Especially if you're going to give Charlo a pass.

This is a what have you done lately business and Canelo hasn't fought the best available fighter since ggg2. For a fighter of Canelo's stature (p4p #1), this is unacceptable.

[Real King Kong]

And that's what I mean. Not many GGG fans just say "I want GGG to fight Charlo or Amdrade". It's always some big story.

Well who would want to see one of those fights instead of ggg vs canelo? At that time it was the 2 best in the division. Why is nobody calling for charlo vs Andrade is a better question.

[ShoulderRoll]

Like Yildrim did? This thread isn't about Benevides or Charlo. Try to keep up, read slowly if you need to.

The Yildirim mando was created thanks to PBC machinations. This has been covered on this forum already, maybe you're the one that should try to keep up?

This is a what have you done lately business and Canelo hasn't fought the best available fighter since ggg2. For a fighter of Canelo's stature (p4p #1), this is unacceptable.

He's trying to unify all the belts at 168 lbs so by definition he's going after all the best available fighters at that weight.

The GGG 2 fight alone is worth more than Jermall Charlo's entire resume so I don't see how Charlo fans even have the nerve to criticize Canelo.

[just the facts]

The Yildirim mando was created thanks to PBC machinations. This has been covered on this forum already, maybe you're the one that should try to keep up?




He's trying to unify all the belts at 168 lbs so by definition he's going after all the best available fighters at that weight.

The GGG 2 fight alone is worth more than Jermall Charlo's entire resume so I don't see how Charlo fans even have the nerve to criticize Canelo.

Canelo is above the belts. So skip all of this mando/belt garbage. When was the last time Canelo fought the best available opponent? Ggg2? More than 2and a half years ago. This is unacceptable for the p4p #1 fighter.

[KTFOKING]

Save me this BS that Canelo needs to justify his opponent choices, after all he's done up to this point. Especially if you're going to give Charlo a pass.

Huh? When did I say Canelo needs to justify his opponents? He can fight whoever he wants to, but Charlo doesn't need to earn a fight with him. He has done no less than Canelo's recent opponents. If Canelo doesn't fight him? Cool, but this earning BS? Nah, that ain't it.

[TernceBudCharlo]

The Yildirim mando was created thanks to PBC machinations. This has been covered on this forum already, maybe you're the one that should try to keep up?


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I think we settled this a few threads ago, you were right that he was the Mando before from the PBC days, but it's confusing because the WBC applies inconsistent standards with their favored fighters. I was confused because we know that it is team canelo who got the fight mandated. This was even when Yildirim was the mandatory, but here's the thing. The WBC zero chance was going to make Canelo fight Yildirim or stripping him of that belt. It was team canelo who went to the WBC and told them to order the Yildirim fight in order to make it seem like Canelo was just fighting his mandatory. Again we have Suleman on record saying it

[TernceBudCharlo]

Canelo is above the belts. So skip all of this mando/belt garbage. When was the last time Canelo fought the best available opponent? Ggg2? More than 2and a half years ago. This is unacceptable for the p4p #1 fighter.

That's my point. If Demetrius Andrade was the #1 p4p fighter making hundreds of millions of dollars then he would have more of an obligation to fight the top available opponent every fight. In no other sport would this be acceptable. Imagine if in the NFL, the NFC champion could refuse to play the AFC champion, but call themselves the super bowl champion. Say "you know what, I need a break - instead of playing in the super bowl, I'm going to play a team thats 2-14 next week. Then maybe in 5 years I'll fight the AFC champion if that keeps playing teams that are 14-2"

Point is Andrade and Charlo have already won the AFC/NFL championship. They have earned their spot in the super bowl, but they're being denied that opportunity.

[Mammoth]

Well who would want to see one of those fights instead of ggg vs canelo? At that time it was the 2 best in the division. Why is nobody calling for charlo vs Andrade is a better question.

He should fight Charlo or Andrade, that 3rd Canelo fight ain't happening any time soon. They don't need to fight each other to earn a GGG fight. Why Matchroom and DAZN was putting far more effort into trying to make a fight between Charlo and Andrade instead of making an inhouse unification is my question. Seems odd imo.

[ShoulderRoll]

Huh? When did I say Canelo needs to justify his opponents? He can fight whoever he wants to, but Charlo doesn't need to earn a fight with him. He has done no less than Canelo's recent opponents. If Canelo doesn't fight him? Cool, but this earning BS? Nah, that ain't it.

Charlo has done less than Kovalev and less than Callum Smith who won the World Boxing Super Series tournament.

The idea that Charlo has nothing left to prove is BS, it's an entitled attitude.

[just the facts]

Charlo has done less than Kovalev and less than Callum Smith who won the World Boxing Super Series tournament.

The idea that Charlo has nothing left to prove is BS, it's an entitled attitude.

So you're saying when Canelo chose to fight Kovalev, Smith, Yildrim and BJS he was choosing to fight a bigger challenge than Charlo? Ridiculous.