Comments Thread For: Sources: Andy Ruiz-Chris Arreola Card Moving To May 1, PPV Undercard Outlined

[andocom]

To think Loma vs Lopez was on free TV, pitching this as a PPV is just wild.

After Ruiz's performance against Joshua in the rematch and layoff, against Wilder I couldn't understand PPV, even then I can't remember a PPV with both fighters coming off loses.

If its $75 for this, thats not far off a year dazn subscription, this is crazy.

Would love to know the thought process behind this, like is Ruiz asking too much and PBC offered to do it as a PPV with no minimum. This is like a get well fight to put him in a position for a decent fight, like Wilder or Whyte.

Whats the worse PPV numbers wise of late, have to imagine this will be close.

[Dip_Slide]

Well since there was virtually no money spent on promotion, if that fight sells 50k, that's 3.7 million generated out of which maybe 90% goes to the fighters. The undercard guys can share 1 mil and the rest will go to Ruiz and Arreola which wouldn't be bad for that caliber of fight. However, I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't even sell half of that.

[andocom]

Well since there was virtually no money spent on promotion, if that fight sells 50k, that's 3.7 million generated out of which maybe 90% goes to the fighters. The undercard guys can share 1 mil and the rest will go to Ruiz and Arreola which wouldn't be bad for that caliber of fight. However, I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't even sell half of that.

Since when has 90% of a PPV ever gone to the fighters though? The standard breakdown was 10% to distributor, 45% to cable operator, 45% to promoter, perhaps this has changed a bit, but consider the maths at that breakdown.

$3.7M total, of which $1.66M is going to the promoter, they want their cut, say 20%, so now we're at $1.3M for all fighters, including undercard.

Headliners guarantees or not, a 50K PPV will loose a ton of money IMO.

[Dip_Slide]

Since when has 90% of a PPV ever gone to the fighters though? The standard breakdown was 10% to distributor, 45% to cable operator, 45% to promoter, perhaps this has changed a bit, but consider the maths at that breakdown.

$3.7M total, of which $1.66M is going to the promoter, they want their cut, say 20%, so now we're at $1.3M for all fighters, including undercard.

Headliners guarantees or not, a 50K PPV will loose a ton of money IMO.

Can't imagine Ruiz taking such a deal and I can't imagine him giving TGB promotions, a relatively unknown promotion, such a huge cut. The network will take at least 10% I think, so yea maybe the fighters will walk away with 80% or even 70%, which is somewhere between 2.8-3.1 mil. and I think some fans will be allowed in so the gate can help them reach that revenue too. Still not a bad deal for such a bad card, question is can it really sell 50k? will there be any fans buying tickets? I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't even generate half of what I'm speculating here and then it's a total loss for everyone.

[deathofaclown]

Can't imagine Ruiz taking such a deal and I can't imagine him giving TGB promotions, a relatively unknown promotion, such a huge cut. The network will take at least 10% I think, so yea maybe the fighters will walk away with 80% or even 70%, which is somewhere between 2.8-3.1 mil. and I think some fans will be allowed in so the gate can help them reach that revenue too. Still not a bad deal for such a bad card, question is can it really sell 50k? will there be any fans buying tickets? I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't even generate half of what I'm speculating here and then it's a total loss for everyone.

the network will take 10%??

They take far more than that. It wouldn’t be worth their while for all the production costs etc. To only take 10%

I don’t think you understand how many people and how much work goes into a live broadcast.