Terence Crawford Calls Out Canelo Alvarez: You Have Shied Away From Black Fighters! You Wanted NO Part of Andrade or Charlo!

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  • FLY TY
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    #151
    Originally posted by LeOoze

    His first 40 or so fights were all in mexico. if you consider how many he's fought since he started fighting in the US, he fights black fighters no more/no less than just about anyone else. Let's be more fair.
    Except the ones he's avoided for 2 divisions...champions at that. All I'm saying is we can all agree the fights with Charlo and Andrade are much more exciting fights than Fielding, Yildrim, over-the-hill Kovalev, and Callum Smith.

    Maybe you're right, since his Mexico days, he's fought more or less the same as anybody else, but Charlo and Andrade were champions at both 154, and now 160, and Saul has fought neither, at either weight. While the messenger may be ironically the wrong person to speak on it, the message is 100% true.
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      #152
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

      Jermall Charlo turned down a Canelo fight. According to twin brother Jermell.
      Ronnie Shields, Charlos trainer, who says he's at least notified, when a potential fight is offered, says it's untrue.

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        #153
        Originally posted by KTFOKING


        Crawford also in the past has taken offense to Canelo being rated on the P4P lists over him. Canelo may be getting Charlo soon, but I don't think the Andrade fight ever happens. And besides, he has tried to make the Charlo fight in the past. But after BJS, he may get Plant and Charlo back to back.
        LOL Canelo earned his spot, Crawford on the other hand.....

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          #154
          Originally posted by FLY TY

          Ronnie Shields, Charlos trainer, who says he's at least notified, when a potential fight is offered, says it's untrue.
          Jermall Charlo also turned down an offer from Andrade. He has a track record of doing this so I'm more inclined to believe Jermell than Shields.

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            #155
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

            Jermall Charlo also turned down an offer from Andrade. He has a track record of doing this so I'm more inclined to believe Jermell than Shields.
            And Andrade turned down offers for both Charlos, so where that leave us...

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              #156
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

              Jermall Charlo also turned down an offer from Andrade. He has a track record of doing this so I'm more inclined to believe Jermell than Shields.
              Jermell never said that Jermall turned down any offer.

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                #157
                Originally posted by FLY TY

                Except the ones he's avoided for 2 divisions...champions at that. All I'm saying is we can all agree the fights with Charlo and Andrade are much more exciting fights than Fielding, Yildrim, over-the-hill Kovalev, and Callum Smith.

                Maybe you're right, since his Mexico days, he's fought more or less the same as anybody else, but Charlo and Andrade were champions at both 154, and now 160, and Saul has fought neither, at either weight. While the messenger may be ironically the wrong person to speak on it, the message is 100% true.

                How many black fighters have Charlo and Andrade faced?

                And when exactly has it become a benchmark that you have to face black fighters in order for it to be deemed one is facing good opposition?

                Lets face it, Andrade is garbage, Charlo keeps ducking Canelo, Canelo beat Jacobs and there aren't any other good black fighters at 160-168.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by KTFOKING

                  Jermell never said that Jermall turned down any offer.
                  Yes he did. It's on video.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                    Yes he did. It's on video.
                    No he didn't.

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey


                      How many black fighters have Charlo and Andrade faced?

                      And when exactly has it become a benchmark that you have to face black fighters in order for it to be deemed one is facing good opposition?

                      Lets face it, Andrade is garbage, Charlo keeps ducking Canelo, Canelo beat Jacobs and there aren't any other good black fighters at 160-168.
                      Wrong and wrong...

                      You guys keep letting the point fly right over your heads. It's not about fighting black fighters, it's about canelo ducking charlo and Andrade (2 black champions viewed as legitimate threats) for 2 damn divisions. What other fighters has moved from division to division and done this?

                      Also charlo has fought the same or more black fighters than canelo, in barely 30 fights, than Canelo has in 48...to answer your question. Again, it's not about the number, it's about who he ducked...and Terence gave those names, names and is absolutely right. Again he may not be the best messenger, but that doesn't take away from the message, imo.

                      Last but not least, if you believe Andrade is garbage, you're new to the sport.

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