bud is clearly delusional

[Curt Henning]

i like bud....and if he fought ortiz i wouldnt be mad...good fight...id watch....but bud is clearly delusional acting like hes "fed up" with team spence and hes tried to make the fight so many times

dog, your promoter said hed offer shawn porter 1 mil to fight you...hahahaha....clearly you guys are all over the place....

a couple of years back your promoter kept saying that you guys were targeting porter after the mean machine fight...then you were on camera a few weeks later, being asked about porter, and you said "not on my radar....you guys got caught with your pants down thinking you could talk about pbc guys and they wouldnt respond...then kenny porter caught you with your pants down and you got shown for what it really was

you re-signed with TR knowing how hard it was going to be to get the pbc WWs in with you and thats where all the good WW names were....

please stop acting like youve put together this monumental effort to get the fight made and youre just over it now...youve basically put together no real effort at all...just a bunch of yapping when you know full well it wasnt going to happen

bud is out here acting like floyd after a couple of years of trying to negotiate with pacquiao and TR....but you arent floyd...and floyd genuinely tried to make the fight more than once...you havent even really tried once....

i dont think this guy wants to fight spence....he wants DAZN to pony up a boatload of cash for him to bring him over...hoping his p4p status and somewhat name recognition will make them back up the money truck....rather than stay the course and wait for spence to exhaust his other options first.......spence isnt going to come running to you now that youve said "oh im done with spence" if thats what you think youre trying to do.....and going to DAZN to beat some 23 year old kid moving up isnt going move the needle in your direction(and i think ortiz is very good and would be a good win)

spence has options...spence can fill seats in texas and the texas people are fully ready to get out and let loose....he could entice canelo...he can fight ugas....haymon could still make a large play for pac...he could still fight thurman...he could do 154...

you can go over to DAZN and beat ortiz...then what?

i dunno...i like bud..always have....but he hasnt helped himself at all.....like ive always maintained...at a certain point you have to take responsibility for your own career....you cant point fingers and blame your promoter or others saying "they dont wanna fight me".......to me bud is still not in a great spot even if he goes over to DAZN for ortiz....because whats the next move after that? i think he wants DAZN to revert back to a few years ago throwing boatloads of cash around "geez look at the money they gave danny jacobs...and some of these other guys..imagine what theyll do for bud p4p crawford".......i understand youve made more money already than you ever thought you would.....but spence will have more belts....he has a better resume....his events have been more successful....suck up your pride and move towards making the fight....

al haymon is too smart to fall for any BS..he aint about to come running because you said "im done" and youre cozying up to DAZN...hell gladly let you go over there and flounder some more....which is what will happen

[Rip Chudd]

I'm with you. Neither fighter or team has made a concentrated effort to make the fight happen, it's all been talk. I think both are content waiting which looks worse on Bud because he has nobody to really fight while Spence can unify with Ugas and has fought the better WW

[StoptheFight]

Crawford is going to go down as the best talent to do nothing with it. Frankly, at 33, it's already becoming too late. Age is real and the longer these negotiations with Spence go nowhere the less likely it is that Crawford wins the fight.

[Curt Henning]

I'm with you. Neither fighter or team has made a concentrated effort to make the fight happen, it's all been talk. I think both are content waiting which looks worse on Bud because he has nobody to really fight while Spence can unify with Ugas and has fought the better WW

i agree neither team has made an effort.....im not out here acting like spence has.....because spence has more options and likely doesnt want the fight till hes exhausted them(because we all know inhouse options are more appealing to the advisor/promoter)...haymon would rather put his guys in together(and arum would do the same) and get both guys paid and have the winner.......

but bud is out here acting like hes been trying so hard and hes giving up/fed up....thats not reality....thats what floyd did with pac after all the BS from arum with the drug testing then the TR website countdown clock for an offer that never existed.....but TR hasnt tried either....they know the haymon gameplan because its the same one they would execute if roles were reversed....so they know theyll have to wait....but stop trying to fool us...no one believes youre fed up because youre content sitting back and getting paid for not having to fight him in the meanwhile.......stop trying to blow smoke and feed me BS when i know better....maybe some of these casual idiots will buy your schtick...but its just schtick...you know the game and how this is going to go...stop playing pretend

[2Shotz]

Boycott his fights. Vote with your dollars! Don’t spend one cent on Bud until he steps up and fights Spence PERIOD.

[Rip Chudd]

i agree neither team has made an effort.....im not out here acting like spence has.....because spence has more options and likely doesnt want the fight till hes exhausted them(because we all know inhouse options are more appealing to the advisor/promoter)...haymon would rather put his guys in together(and arum would do the same) and get both guys paid and have the winner.......

but bud is out here acting like hes been trying so hard and hes giving up/fed up....thats not reality....thats what floyd did with pac after all the BS from arum with the drug testing then the TR website countdown clock for an offer that never existed.....but TR hasnt tried either....they know the haymon gameplan because its the same one they would execute if roles were reversed....so they know theyll have to wait....but stop trying to fool us...no one believes youre fed up because youre content sitting back and getting paid for not having to fight him in the meanwhile.......stop trying to blow smoke and feed me BS when i know better....maybe some of these casual idiots will buy your schtick...but its just schtick...you know the game and how this is going to go...stop playing pretend

I wholeheartedly agree, we are on the same page. I do think though that with Crawford perhaps he's believing the crap TR is feeding him as if they have been actively pursuing the Spence fight, but we all know nobody has mad a legit attempt to even place a real offer on the table.

[Curt Henning]

I wholeheartedly agree, we are on the same page. I do think though that with Crawford perhaps he's believing the crap TR is feeding him as if they have been actively pursuing the Spence fight, but we all know nobody has mad a legit attempt to even place a real offer on the table.

eh...maybe youre right...but i like to think as long as hes been in it now bud understands the business better now....he knows if he were with haymon and bob had haymons stable it would be the same...bob would be running the same game on him....exhaust all inhouse options then make the fight when thats pretty much dry

bud knows he has to wait for spence to be done doing what haymon wants him to do with his own fighters first......but dont insult our intelligence....you arent trying and you know you arent(maybe youre right and he doesnt i just feel rn he knows full well whats going on).....it was alright a lil while back when you were pretending that they were all ducking you and you had bradley and ESPN doing your work on TV for you.....but i know better now....