Tavoris Cloud=Jeff Lacy + 8 pounds...

[tennesseeboy]

akk i gotta say is damn clinton woods has a granite chin, he took some horrendous blows that whole fight, props to woods for being a warrior his whole career... has taken a beating in his 14 year career, tough ass guy.

[Iceta]

Lacy put his punches pretty good in the beginning too. Until Joe Cal spanked him and took his soul.

Tavoris may be slightly more talented and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

Lets see how he fares against a real killer.

I also don't agree with your assessment that he gets winded at the end of rounds. Cloud maintains a high pace throughout his fights.

[Eric Holder]

I want to preface this by saying that I really enjoyed Tavoris tonight and he has a great personality unlike Lacy who always came off like a bit of a prick to me.

Both Cloud and his mother and his life story were very endearing and charming and I congratulate him on a nice, well deserved win.

Having said that I see the same type fighter 1 inch taller and 8 pounds heavier.

Suspect defense, loads up predictably on all his shots and gets winded towards the second half of the round.

Props to Clinton for making it competitive and being a class pro. If a shot guy like Woods could tag Cloud at will like he did what will a prime top level guy do?

Urango/Bailey

I don't know if its just me, but I love watching pressure fighters, even ******ly clumsy ones like Urango come forward and deliberately destroy other fighters.

Its just beautiful to watch that kind of breakdown in real time.

Most of us suffer that kind of breakdown in a sustained way throughout our lifetime but its neat to watch a person endure a life crippling breakdown compressed into 36 minutes.

Long live badass, iron chinned, heavy handed pressure fighters like Urango.

that's an eloquent way of describing why pressure fighters are so great to see,

[VatoMulatto]

that's an eloquent way of describing why pressure fighters are so great to see,

But it's even more fun to see a pure boxer act like a matador, make the pressure fighter look like a bull and then in the end knock him out. That's beautiful boxing.



KNOCKOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cadillac Man]

Cloud vs Pascal would be FIREWORKS!

[Glamour Puss]

But it's even more fun to see a pure boxer act like a matador, make the pressure fighter look like a bull and then in the end knock him out. That's beautiful boxing.



KNOCKOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I somewhat agree with you in the aesthetic sense, but in the social sense I don't.

The matador traditionally represents the elite class where as the bull represents the beast of burden every man working class guy.

Therefore, from my vantage point being a populist, I always root for the bull to vanquish the elitist matador because of the inherent class struggle but also because the odds are always stacked in favor of the matador and I love to see the underdog prevail.

[street bully]

I somewhat agree with you in the aesthetic sense, but in the social sense I don't.

The matador traditionally represents the elite class where as the bull represents the beast of burden every man working class guy.

Therefore, from my vantage point being a populist, I always root for the bull to vanquish the elitist matador because of the inherent class struggle but also because the odds are always stacked in favor of the matador and I love to see the underdog prevail.

Put down your copy of the communist manifesto.

[Glamour Puss]

Put down your copy of the communist manifesto.

I'm not a commie, I'm an American system traditionalist in the spirit of Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton.

[Spray_resistant]

Now Jack, Cloud has some Lacy like qualities but he is faster and evades punches much better than Lacy ever did. I want to wait until he runs into Calzaghe + 8lbs before I start comparing the two.

As far as Urango, I am convinced no is ever stopping him and any future losses will come by decsion. He took punches from the hardest hitting fighter he will most likely ever face, and just kept coming like the droid that he is.

[Iceta]

He loses to Chad and Hopkins, and gets knocked out by Johnson. Tarver would also beat him. I have a feeling Tarver will fight him next

No faith in Cloud at all huh? Tarver would get eaten up by him. Come on Bully, you are a better observer than that.