Comments Thread For: Hearn: Estrada Has Mandatory Due With Rungvisai, But Whole World Wants 3rd Chocolatito Fight

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  • tokon
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    #11
    Originally posted by champion4ever
    No let them fight. The Chocolito rematch can wait. Roman Gonzalez would still be there.
    Exactly but hearn trying to spin it differently.

    Can't see too many people objecting to Estrada-Rungvisai next.

    But Hearn knows the risk to Estrada in that fight . . .

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      #12
      Originally posted by tokon

      Exactly but hearn trying to spin it differently.

      Can't see too many people objecting to Estrada-Rungvisai next.

      But Hearn knows the risk to Estrada in that fight . . .
      There are tons of people on here trashing Srisaket as the next opponent. Just read through the threads.

      Same group of people who called Canelo a coward for dropping the WBC, are now suggesting that Estrada should do it to duck the mandatory.

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        #13
        Guess I am not part of the world then because I want to see Estrada fight Rungvisai next.

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          #14
          Originally posted by revelated

          There are tons of people on here trashing Srisaket as the next opponent. Just read through the threads.

          Same group of people who called Canelo a coward for dropping the WBC, are now suggesting that Estrada should do it to duck the mandatory.
          I don't read all the threads here, just certain ones that interest me but I'll take your word on that.

          I ascribe to the view that pro boxing is, first, foremost and last, a business. Whilst honouring his agreement to fight Rungvisai would be the most "sporting" thing to do, at this stage in his career especially, it is more likely that Estrada will go whichever route offers the greatest financial return, and it would be hard to blame him for doing so.

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            #15
            Originally posted by thack
            Hearn is a sickening hypocrite calling for fighters to honour their mandatories when it suits and dump belts when it don't .A real shytster.
            Yup, but this is different because Estrada is his fighter, and the mandatory isn’t a soft touch.

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              #16
              yeah this is a tough situation, but personally I would prefer Estrada Choco rematch since there is still tremendous buzz around their last fight, these two can also earn a much deserved big pay days. Rungvisai vs Cuadras for the WBC, imagine both fights on the same card. Then set up winner vs winner for all the marbles, spectacular set of matches.

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                #17
                Originally posted by tokon

                I don't read all the threads here, just certain ones that interest me but I'll take your word on that.

                I ascribe to the view that pro boxing is, first, foremost and last, a business. Whilst honouring his agreement to fight Rungvisai would be the most "sporting" thing to do, at this stage in his career especially, it is more likely that Estrada will go whichever route offers the greatest financial return, and it would be hard to blame him for doing so.
                I don't agree that Estrada/Choco 3 is as big a draw as Estrada/Rungivisai 3. Here's the thing.

                With Srisaket, a GOOD promoter should be able to sell the rise and fall and rise of Rungvisai, tell the story of his frustration after fighting the wrong strategy in the second fight (which he has admitted to), tell the story of how damn close that fight was, how long he's been waiting for redemption, how Estrada lost every round Srisaket fought southpaw, how this guy Srisaket is easily the biggest threat to Estrada's titles because he's the guy that put the-then P4P guy to sleep in brutal fashion. And he wants his title back plus to prove to the world that he is the best.

                Then, you book Choco against Cuadras, who also wants revenge, on that undercard. Both guys on the co-main coming off losses to the main event. Winner fights whoever comes out on top of the main event.

                You call the whole event UNFINISHED BUSINESS: Redemption.

                Profit.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by tokon

                  I don't read all the threads here, just certain ones that interest me but I'll take your word on that.

                  I ascribe to the view that pro boxing is, first, foremost and last, a business. Whilst honouring his agreement to fight Rungvisai would be the most "sporting" thing to do, at this stage in his career especially, it is more likely that Estrada will go whichever route offers the greatest financial return, and it would be hard to blame him for doing so.
                  What agreement would Estrada not be honouring? Rungvisai is his mando, doesn't mean he has to fight him, just he probably can't keep that belt if he doesn't. This isn't a rematch contract between two fighters situation, that would be an agreement.

                  By that logic a champion could never retire with a belt because he would always be not "honouring an agreement" to fight his next mando?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by andocom

                    What agreement would Estrada not be honouring? Rungvisai is his mando, doesn't mean he has to fight him, just he probably can't keep that belt if he doesn't. This isn't a rematch contract between two fighters situation, that would be an agreement.

                    By that logic a champion could never retire with a belt because he would always be not "honouring an agreement" to fight his next mando?
                    Srisaket made an agreement with WBC in exchange for not enforcing mandatory immediately.

                    As part of the agreement, he was to get the winner of Estrada/Choco 2.

                    That fight wouldn't have been approved by WBC otherwise.

                    The only reason he's talking about the mandatory is because of Estrada saying he didn't want to honor the agreement.

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                      #20
                      estrada knows he lost to gonzalez. anyime a fighter says "should have been a draw" thats saving face cause they know they lost. basically insert ward shocked face when hearing that they gave him the kovalev fight gif. it should be roman-rungvisai 3 since gonzalez already beat estrada twice and probably should have won the first rungvisai fight. politics...

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