Comments Thread For: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Chocolatito Gonzalez - LIVE BoxingScene Scorecard

[Sid-Knee]

You sound very bitter and sort of paranoid lol. Estrada outboxed Caca and was rightfully awarded the victory. Your whining and crying ain’t gonna change that. Btw, check the whooping that Cuadras out on caca, and you will see what a real robbery is.

Why do Mexicans claim some weird bitterness as the reason for calling out their mass corruption? You're arrogant and entitled. Just ugly creatures to me if i'm being honest. Finding any sane, rational ones is impossible. You're just pathologically biased and raging psycho nationalists with no honour. That shows how weak and desperate you people are when you can't win in an honourable way. Pathetic. It's a toss up to who i actually despise more... Mexicans or Americans.

Paranoid? Learn what irony is. You're the paranoid one here coming out with such an accusation. Freaks, man.

Estrada didn't even believe he won you moron. He knew he lost. But he wanted to save face so came out with the "Draw" bullshlt. Gonzales clearly won, and you know it. But waiting for a Mexican to be honest is like waiting for someone's Down Syndrome to clear up. It's never going to happen. Just embarrassing excuses for people.

You mean the 9-3 score i had for Gonzales over Cuadras? You f3cks really can't score for shlt or see beyond your raging bias. FOH.

[Spray_resistant]

It's accepted as a clear robbery by the vast majority of fans. My score card was 8-3 with 1 even for Gonzales. Gonzales came forward and clearly landed more shots. Estrada was beat up pretty good in a few of those rounds. The excuse to why Texas supposedly rips off any fighter who comes up against a Mexican, is supposedly due to them liking the "Aggressor". And yet, Gonzales was the aggressor all night. He clearly wins, but they still gave the corrupt decision to the Mexican. Like they always do.

It's not possible to have Estrada winning unless you're Mexican. Are you Mexican?

I'm not Mexican, Choco get out boxed in many rds and for the record most posters had it a close fight and it was very split on who they thought won. I had Estrada up slightly.

[Sid-Knee]

I'm not Mexican, Choco get out boxed in many rds and for the record most posters had it a close fight and it was very split on who they thought won. I had Estrada up slightly.

Most posters who were Mexican or Mexican/American. The rest just can't score a fight for shlt. There is no way you can make an argument for Estrada. Not even Estrada himself. He knew he didn't win, which is why he said it was a "Draw" to save face because he couldn't admit he lost. But he did, and clearly. Anybody struggling to score that fight should never attempt to score another fight again if they're so incompetent.

[Spray_resistant]

Most posters who were Mexican or Mexican/American. The rest just can't score a fight for shlt. There is no way you can make an argument for Estrada. Not even Estrada himself. He knew he didn't win, which is why he said it was a "Draw" to save face because he couldn't admit he lost. But he did, and clearly. Anybody struggling to score that fight should never attempt to score another fight again if they're so incompetent.

It again was a close fight which could have gone either way, you're obviously just trolling now dispensing insults to which I am going to render my own unanimous decision declaring you......a poopyhead.

[Sid-Knee]

It again was a close fight which could have gone either way, you're obviously just trolling now dispensing insults to which I am going to render my own unanimous decision declaring you......a poopyhead.

It wasn't remotely close. Gonzales won clearly. You'd have to be incompetent to have it to Estrada or it being a close fight.

I've neve understood the "It could go either way" crowd. You either score it 10-9 clear or close to one of the fighters. Obviously 10-8 and so on if there's a KD. But if the round is so close you can't split them, just score it a 10-10 round and make it even. Then add up your card to have a win one way or another, or a draw. Simple.

Estrada disagrees with you. He was the one in there and knew he didn't win so came with the "Draw" bullshlt. A fighter knows if they've won or not. Especially when it's one sided like it was in terms of points and who took the rounds.

Out of interest, where are you from? Mexicans and Americans love their Emoticons, which you use here.

[Richie_R]

Who are these Mexicans? Berchelt got wrecked and hasn't beaten any top fighter. Munguia was beaten by a can in Hogan but did the usual robbery and hasn't even been in there with a top fighter. Estrada was clearly beaten by a smaller past his best Gonzales and did the usual robbery.

Mexico has Navarette and Martinez, but who have they fought?

Who cares about titles if they're won against scrubs and defended against scrubs? Look at the combined resume from each country, and you'll find the UK has the best. Mexico is below average, and the US is f3cking atrocious. Look at how many have a title without fighting a world level fighter. It's most of them. They cherry pick weaker opponents and small guys.

You use Boxrec for rankings? Hahahahahahahahahaha. No wonder you believe this madness then.

An American in Andy Ruiz caused an upset because AJ handed it to him on a plate. Not only did AJ have problems going into the fight (You can see in his eyes coming to the ring something wasn't right) but when he knocked Ruiz down, he stood square on and started swinging huge hooks to get it over with against a smaller opponent and faster hands. You don't do that with his height and reach for that very reason. AJ put himself at a huge disadvantage. With him swinging all his weight into the punches, it's going to be devastating when he swings into one making the power of Ruiz more than triple it normally would. But AJ got caught on the ear and it blew his ear drum making him lose his equilibrium for the remainder of the fight which is why he couldn't recover. But in the rematch, AJ corrected the mistake, so it was now up to Ruiz to create his chance instead of AJ handing it on a plate for him. Ruiz was dominated from start to finish. He's not even the Buster Douglas of this era. Douglas dominated from the start due to skill and not being mentally weak like he was most of the time. It wasn't due to Tyson making a huge mistake and handing it to him in one mad instance.

If you think they're still Mexican no matter where they were born due to ethnicity and "Blood", then none of them are Mexican. They're actually Spanish. All the lighter skin tones are because of the Spanish, not Mexicans. In fact, the true Mexicans with the much darker complexion, can't fight for shlt. Which is why you don't really see any. But have a look at some of them on YouTube to see how wildly different they are.

Wow you really are paranoid lmao

[Richie_R]

Why do Mexicans claim some weird bitterness as the reason for calling out their mass corruption? You're arrogant and entitled. Just ugly creatures to me if i'm being honest. Finding any sane, rational ones is impossible. You're just pathologically biased and raging psycho nationalists with no honour. That shows how weak and desperate you people are when you can't win in an honourable way. Pathetic. It's a toss up to who i actually despise more... Mexicans or Americans.

Paranoid? Learn what irony is. You're the paranoid one here coming out with such an accusation. Freaks, man.

Estrada didn't even believe he won you moron. He knew he lost. But he wanted to save face so came out with the "Draw" bullshlt. Gonzales clearly won, and you know it. But waiting for a Mexican to be honest is like waiting for someone's Down Syndrome to clear up. It's never going to happen. Just embarrassing excuses for people.

You mean the 9-3 score i had for Gonzales over Cuadras? You f3cks really can't score for shlt or see beyond your raging bias. FOH.

Extremely paranoid lmao. Just chill man, it ain’t that serious lol. Where are you from since you seem to be ultra obsessed with nationality?

[Spray_resistant]

It wasn't remotely close. Gonzales won clearly. You'd have to be incompetent to have it to Estrada or it being a close fight.

I've neve understood the "It could go either way" crowd. You either score it 10-9 clear or close to one of the fighters. Obviously 10-8 and so on if there's a KD. But if the round is so close you can't split them, just score it a 10-10 round and make it even. Then add up your card to have a win one way or another, or a draw. Simple.

Estrada disagrees with you. He was the one in there and knew he didn't win so came with the "Draw" bullshlt. A fighter knows if they've won or not. Especially when it's one sided like it was in terms of points and who took the rounds.

Out of interest, where are you from? Mexicans and Americans love their Emoticons, which you use here.

The could have gone either way comes from the subjectivity of close rds meaning I scored it one way but will acknowledge that the round was close so won't argue if someone had the opposite score.

I'm from the land of McDonald's and fear of government stealing our firearms btw.

[Sid-Knee]

Wow you really are paranoid lmao

No paranoia here. Can't say the same for you, Bazooka.

Address the situation or avoid it because you can't answer to anything.

As for you second post to me... Hahahaha. Yeah, it ain't that "Serious" Bazooka. Sure, says the crazy nutter who has gone beyond serious and into an incredibly warped mindset attacking everyone and calling them bums, but supporting Mexicans who are in fact guilty of the crimes you accuse others of with many different accounts on here.

[Sid-Knee]

The could have gone either way comes from the subjectivity of close rds meaning I scored it one way but will acknowledge that the round was close so won't argue if someone had the opposite score.

I'm from the land of McDonald's and fear of government stealing our firearms btw.

American then. But what is your ethnicity? If you don't mind?