Comments Thread For: Claressa Shields Adviser: Pay Must Be Appropriate For Marshall Fight

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The WBC is the most important belt, that hasn't changed. But that doesn't mean that Wilder was the real heavyweight champion. There is a lineage of "beating the man who beat the man" from Klitschko to Fury that no one can deny.

And Wilder to this day is still a bigger name in the US than Joshua. That hasn't changed.

Savannah Marshall isn't a big star in the UK or anywhere yet. Why even even try to draw a parallel?

You tried to make out Wilder was the real champ between him and AJ because the "WBC title is more important". We both know what you were writing back then. I told you i'd make a note of it, which is why this is the second time i've done so. The other time was with Spence/Crawford and their split. You even f3cked yourself over in saying "Spence has two titles so should get more money just based on that" Haha.

In your first post on this thread, you said Clarissa is the A side and Marshall isn't even a champion. But the money is very clearly in the UK, not the US. They don't even care for Clarissa. That's why she's fighting on crap platforms for crap money. Any guarantee Trilla make to Clarissa is wasted money because they'll just lose money, like Wilder did repeatedly for the idiots over there. But you've contradicted yourself yet again.

Look, don't worry, i already know what kind of people you are. I'm not expecting to put your hands up and admit your extreme bias and hypocrisy. You'd have to have some decency and character for you to do that. And you don't. In any way shape or form. None of you lot do.

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She picked up that belt after Shields dropped it. So she never won it in the ring.

It's similar to how Tyson Fury is the real heavyweight champion. Not Joshua.

So boxing should have haulted the heavyweight boxing scene since Fury was self admitted retired as Joshua collected some belts ? That’s what you’re suggesting you idiot if belts can’t be won if fighters aren’t available.

You really are re.tarded , even as Wilder detractor I still acknowledge champions who can obtain a belt but you are so dumb you can’t even do that .

Shoulder TROLL .

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You tried to make out Wilder was the real champ between him and AJ because the "WBC title is more important".

Which was true. The real champion is Tyson Fury, not Wilder or Joshua. But Wilder's WBC was certainly more prestigious than Joshua's belts.

We both know what you were writing back then. I told you i'd make a note of it, which is why this is the second time i've done so. The other time was with Spence/Crawford and their split. You even f3cked yourself over in saying "Spence has two titles so should get more money just based on that" Haha.

Wilder and Joshua both brought something to the table financially. Terence Crawford doesn't, even his own promoter says he is losing money on him. In that situation (where posters want to ignore the numbers since it won't favor Bud) the only thing you can use to separate the two fighters is their belts.

In your first post on this thread, you said Clarissa is the A side and Marshall isn't even a champion. But the money is very clearly in the UK, not the US. They don't even care for Clarissa. That's why she's fighting on crap platforms for crap money. Any guarantee Trilla make to Clarissa is wasted money because they'll just lose money, like Wilder did repeatedly for the idiots over there. But you've contradicted yourself yet again.

Shields has fought on Showtime numerous times and just headlined a PPV. What money or ratings has Marshall generated? Please tell me. She's only had 9 pro fights for f*ck's sake. You are reaching and sound desperate to force the "more money in the UK" narrative when it doesn't even apply here.

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So boxing should have haulted the heavyweight boxing scene since Fury was self admitted retired as Joshua collected some belts ? That’s what you’re suggesting you idiot if belts can’t be won if fighters aren’t available.

You really are re.tarded , even as Wilder detractor I still acknowledge champions who can obtain a belt but you are so dumb you can’t even do that .

Shoulder TROLL .

Fury is the man who ended the Klitschko era and he never lost his belts in the ring. That might rankle you Joshua fanboys but I don't care.

[juggernaut666]

Fury is the man who ended the Klitschko era and he never lost his belts in the ring. That might rankle you Joshua fanboys but I don't care.

Fury retired so a champion had to be made , ****** . Fury declined a rematch ,it was actually A.J who had Klitschko retire not Fury .


You know what I’m saying boy ?

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Which was true. The real champion is Tyson Fury, not Wilder or Joshua. But Wilder's WBC was certainly more prestigious than Joshua's belts.





Wilder and Joshua both brought something to the table financially. Terence Crawford doesn't, even his own promoter says he is losing money on him. In that situation (where posters want to ignore the numbers since it won't favor Bud) the only thing you can use to separate the two fighters is their belts.





Shields has fought on Showtime numerous times and just headlined a PPV. What money or ratings has Marshall generated? Please tell me. She's only had 9 pro fights for f*ck's sake. You are reaching and sound desperate to force the "more money in the UK" narrative when it doesn't even apply here.

You didn't make claim that Fury was the true champion back then. Stop lying. Nor is the WBC the most prestigious. The WBA came before the WBC, but do you see me claiming such childish nonsense? No. All titles are equal. However, if i were to pick any titles as lesser, then it would be the WBA and WBC on account of how they behave. They're pathetic. Especially the WBC.

AJ brought plenty to the table. Wilder brought nothing. He was a vulture. A scrub. He just latched onto AJ to make a name for himself because he couldn't do so himself due to being f3cking garbage. His equally sub-human fans then slandered AJ like Wilder and the TV stations over there like they always do.

Crawford is basically in the same position as Wilder is. He gets paydays beyond what he generates. But Crawford gets paid more than Spence on average. Wilder's backers lost huge money on him too. Not as much as you think though as all the payday nonsense you and the freaks used to spew were nothing but lies to keep up the pretence. Wilder got nowhere near to what is claimed. That would result in 10's of millions more lost like in the Fury rematch if that was the case. They didn't lose all that money. They just lied instead. It's cheaper. Spence/Crawford should be 50/50. Neither are big names making huge money. But this is THE fight to make at the weight. But yet again, the fight isn't happening due to cowardice and ducking with the excuse being money.

And AJ had been on SkySports and on PPV. Real PPV in stadiums with millions being generated. But that still didn't stop your madness. The money is being made in the UK by a British promoter. Whereas that wasn't the case with AJ/Wilder. Wilder would be making the money off the back of AJ, not himself. Marshall is bigger in the UK, as you claimed Wilder was bigger in the US. But here you are again being a hypocrite and contradicting yourself like a clown. You digging a hole and trying to get out of this is just the usual pathetic behaviour i've come to expect from you. But if you think Clarissa is the big A side with the money on her side, she can make the big offer to Marshall can't she? But guess what, f3ck face? It's the British promoter yet again making all the big offers. You clowns never do. You just bark orders when you really should be knowing your place and shutting the f3ck up. Let me know when you cowards ever do make the big offers to the right fighters in any weight like you clowns always get put your way. Mr A side when you haven't got a pot to piss in nor are you interested in making the fights that matter. Just cherry pick to gain all the advantages and talk about fighting the best but never do. Just ask for ridiculous money every time when a real fighter comes calling and we'll watch this pathetic movie we always see from you clowns. Like clockwork. F3cking boring.

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You didn't make claim that Fury was the true champion back then. Stop lying. Nor is the WBC the most prestigious. The WBA came before the WBC, but do you see me claiming such childish nonsense? No. All titles are equal. However, if i were to pick any titles as lesser, then it would be the WBA and WBC on account of how they behave. They're pathetic. Especially the WBC.

AJ brought plenty to the table. Wilder brought nothing. He was a vulture. A scrub. He just latched onto AJ to make a name for himself because he couldn't do so himself due to being f3cking garbage. His equally sub-human fans then slandered AJ like Wilder and the TV stations over there like they always do.

Crawford is basically in the same position as Wilder is. He gets paydays beyond what he generates. But Crawford gets paid more than Spence on average. Wilder's backers lost huge money on him too. Not as much as you think though as all the payday nonsense you and the freaks used to spew were nothing but lies to keep up the pretence. Wilder got nowhere near to what is claimed. That would result in 10's of millions more lost like in the Fury rematch if that was the case. They didn't lose all that money. They just lied instead. It's cheaper. Spence/Crawford should be 50/50. Neither are big names making huge money. But this is THE fight to make at the weight. But yet again, the fight isn't happening due to cowardice and ducking with the excuse being money.

And AJ had been on SkySports and on PPV. Real PPV in stadiums with millions being generated. But that still didn't stop your madness. The money is being made in the UK by a British promoter. Whereas that wasn't the case with AJ/Wilder. Wilder would be making the money off the back of AJ, not himself. Marshall is bigger in the UK, as you claimed Wilder was bigger in the US. But here you are again being a hypocrite and contradicting yourself like a clown. You digging a hole and trying to get out of this is just the usual pathetic behaviour i've come to expect from you. But if you think Clarissa is the big A side with the money on her side, she can make the big offer to Marshall can't she? But guess what, f3ck face? It's the British promoter yet again making all the big offers. You clowns never do. You just bark orders when you really should be knowing your place and shutting the f3ck up. Let me know when you cowards ever do make the big offers to the right fighters in any weight like you clowns always get put your way. Mr A side when you haven't got a pot to piss in nor are you interested in making the fights that matter. Just cherry pick to gain all the advantages and talk about fighting the best but never do. Just ask for ridiculous money every time when a real fighter comes calling and we'll watch this pathetic movie we always see from you clowns. Like clockwork. F3cking boring.

I've always said that it was Fury who ended the Klitschko era. He is the lineal heavyweight champ. End of story.

Wilder brought more to the table in America than AJ. Based on American ticket sales and American tv ratings. Why do you continue to cry about this? Just learn to accept it.

Shields' people already told Hearn to buzz off with his lowball offers. I don't know where you're getting that Savannah Marshall is some big moneymaker in the UK, do you have any numbers to back that up? If so post them. Use logic and stop being so emotional about this.

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I've always said that it was Fury who ended the Klitschko era. He is the lineal heavyweight champ. End of story.

Wilder brought more to the table in America than AJ. Based on American ticket sales and American tv ratings. Why do you continue to cry about this? Just learn to accept it.

Shields' people already told Hearn to buzz off with his lowball offers. I don't know where you're getting that Savannah Marshall is some big moneymaker in the UK, do you have any numbers to back that up? If so post them. Use logic and stop being so emotional about this.

You did say Fury ended the Klitschko era. But you didn't say Fury was the champ when AJ and Wilder held the titles. End of story.

Wilder brought nothing. You're delusional. It all would have come off the back of AJ, not himself. Wilder just lost people money. End of story.

Based on ticket sales and TV viewers, Marshall is the bigger star in the UK. End of story. Why are you crying about this? Just learn to accept it.

How can it be a lowball offer? Marshall "Isn't a big star in the UK or anywhere" why would you expect Shields to ask for grotesque money for a nobody? She never did that for anybody else? End of story.

Hearn has offered big money to Shields due to Marshall being of interest. Without Marshall being involved, Hearn doesn't a hoot about Shields like everybody else. That's why she's fighting on a crap platform. End of story.

Logic???? Hahahahahaha. Maybe you could learn what "Logic" is. Then this madness wouldn't exist on any forum when it comes to you extremists.

Emotional is slandering, defaming, being aggressively poisonous, obsessed, defending cowards and calling huge money "Lowball" offers. Being on the receiving end of this madness and deranged, twisted sickness, and firing back, is calling you to task. But you project away like you freaks do. I've already said i'm not expecting you to hold your hands up. I know exactly what you people are. Narcissists never take responsibility nor have any guilt for their crimes. They just spew madness like the pathetic jokes they clearly are. End of story.

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Based on ticket sales and TV viewers, Marshall is the bigger star in the UK. End of story. Why are you crying about this? Just learn to accept it.

Ok. So show me a source for those figures. Do you have a link?

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Ok. So show me a source for those figures. Do you have a link?

You're the one who thinks more people watch Shields than Marshall. So YOU show me those numbers with a link?