Racial anxiety destroyed Wilder

**Spray_resistant** · 03-12-2021, 12:26 PM

It could have been a factor but he also believed his own bs saying things like he needs to only be perfect for 2 seconds I.E I don't have to learn boxing skills.

**Eff Pandas** · 03-12-2021, 12:54 PM

Where is any evidence of Wilder thinking he was fighting for all black folks & that Tyson represented all white folks?!?!? I think you might be projecting here.

I think a guy who's used to winning just got manhandled & it fooked with him. Show me some undefeated guys after their first L & I'll show you a decent % of mfers who never were the same. Something about losing that 0 changes mfers sometimes. And clearly Wilder got changed the first time he got his ass beat. And it wasn't even arguable or anything. It was a straight up ass beating which is probably more likely to fook with a guy & have longer impact with them mentally.

**REDEEMER** · 03-12-2021, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by Eff Pandas

Where is any evidence of Wilder thinking he was fighting for all black folks & that Tyson represented all white folks?!?!? I think you might be projecting here.

I think a guy who's used to winning just got manhandled & it fooked with him. Show me some undefeated guys after their first L & I'll show you a decent % of mfers who never were the same. Something about losing that 0 changes mfers sometimes. And clearly Wilder got changed the first time he got his ass beat. And it wasn't even arguable or anything. It was a straight up ass beating which is probably more likely to fook with a guy & have longer impact with them mentally.

Wilder was bragging how he was going to use the Fury fight as a black history month trivia question . Leading up to the first fight and using racial overtones like he did with the one seconds out you tuber on his till this day rant was a big part of it . He purposely riled all The you tube channels that do cover racial subjects before boxing ones because that’s who support him ,you never see him do real interviews with real reporters with credentials, you see him on channels that push agendas .

Edit : Last legit interview he did was with Kevin Ioli of yahoo sports and even attacked his character when he reported exactly what Wilder said about the costume ,he’s just a nuisance really . You didn’t hear him slander anything from Kevin when Kevin even lied on that interview and write up saying he was the heavyweight savior in a separate article ? Ha

**Marchegiano** · 03-12-2021, 01:12 PM

Wilder's not even ruined. Y'all gonna eat yer words when the man comes around.

Besides that, Wilder doesn't represent the black man alone. Wilder goes out of his way to include Dixie. He is the southern black champion. The single greatest force in boxing history, it's something to be proud of. We got Robinson, Ali, and Louis. Wilder has the opportunity to join them and looks to.

Only reason to not like Deontay is because you're bias. He's done everything right while others with more advantages pansy ass around talking about their money or activity like the fruitloops they are.

**Rockin'** · 03-12-2021, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by MoneyKasha

racial anxiety and insecurity destroyed this dude

He couldn't handle the fact that he got beat by a white man, because he belived like Hopkins that no "white boy could beat him" and this racial anxiety/insecurity destroyed him when he got destroyed by Fury. There's an element within some black sports fan, whenever a white athlete is successful. You tend to see some insecurity. They have to re-inforce how they are the "superior athlete" or they have to call the guy a "great white hope", they can't handle when a white athlete, in this case, a boxer who is successful.

Wilder created a racial narrative. He tried to position himself as representing all black people and Fury was representing all white people. Fury, rightfully, try to shut that narrative down but Wilder was going on with it. When Wilder lost, it broke him, it completely fractured his mind. If he would of lost to a black guy I can gurantee he wouldn't of reacted the same way. racial anxiety/insecurity destroyed this dude

I remember when a black guy that I was lined to fight as an amateur, at the Palace of Auburn Hills, said that no white boy can beat him at the weigh-ins. He said this right in front of me. I couldn't wait to get in there to bounce my fists off of his skull. I beat him from post to post in that first round. 2 standing 8 counts and a missed call on a knock down. He was 23 and I was like 16 years old. I spent too much energy in trying to stop him though and he came back a bit in the 2nd round. I got a second wind in the 3rd and boxed him well winning the decision.

So we're walking back to the dressing room and he's beaching that he won the fight. My trainer, who was extremely well mannered and even tempered, tells him to shut up and asks him if he would like to finish this out in the parking lot. We didn't hear anything else from him on that night. LMAO!!!! ...........Rockin'

**Rockin'** · 03-12-2021, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by Marchegiano

Wilder's not even ruined. Y'all gonna eat yer words when the man comes around.

Besides that, Wilder doesn't represent the black man alone. Wilder goes out of his way to include Dixie. He is the southern black champion. The single greatest force in boxing history, it's something to be proud of. We got Robinson, Ali, and Louis. Wilder has the opportunity to join them and looks to.

Only reason to not like Deontay is because you're bias. He's done everything right while others with more advantages pansy ass around talking about their money or activity like the fruitloops they are.

Wilder does not have the skills to join those great fighters. He has power, and that's about all that he has..........Rockin'

**Marchegiano** · 03-12-2021, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by Rockin'

Wilder does not have the skills to join those great fighters. He has power, and that's about all that he has..........Rockin'

This is a thing you're not going to like about me probably. It sounds ignorant as ****, like as if I've never even graced a gym, but, it comes from historical knowledge not ignorance.

I wholeheartedly believe boxing skills are overrated.

It wasn't Daniel Mendoza brings the idea of hit and don't be hit back then all of a sudden the hit me I hit you back harder types are being dominated by hit and don't be hit back types, they weren't. Boxing as a skillset moves away from the old being tougher and hitting harder mindset solely and exclusively because boxers who hit and don't get hit have longer careers and make more money.

There is no exodus of skills based on in ring results, just wallets.

That said, I believe it's an extreme mistake and mishandling to take a solid former and try to create a latter out of him. I'd focus on Wilder's power and use that one asset to overcome what is in reality money making skills not winning skills.

Marciano does a lot of wrong too, if you're a boxer, if you're a 18th century prizefighter he's just super talented.

Wilder does be patient and wait for his one. He watches the same thing happen over and over again and relies on his man becoming comfortable. Imagine if Wilder even attempted a move like Marciano's "Phantom Overhead". With that power and a decent trap that works with doing things improperly you can have all the speed, reflexes, and know how in the world, you just end up like Joe, looking dead.

I don't believe in right and wrong was to fight, just results, and in that regard boxing as a skill set has nothing to brag about. There has been at least ten other undefeated HW champions between 686BC and now, outside of Rock, none of them QB champions of course, and so, not one ever in the entire history of boxing has ever been a boxer. Punchers across the entire history. Maybe there's something in that, but, my point here isn't to allude to the puncher or natural talent as superior, no, just as valid though as any boxer. They have their wins as well, from a historical perspective.

**Eff Pandas** · 03-12-2021, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Marchegiano

Wilder's not even ruined. Y'all gonna eat yer words when the man comes around.

He's got the power to win any fight. I feel like his confidence is massively shook & he's 35 doe is the thing. He's done at the level he was at. He can win fights. He might even win a belt again. But he's on borrowed time now. Ruined might be overstating his status I don't fully disagree with you there, but I think its highly up in the air where he's at although I don't think its crazy in the least to suggest we've seen the best Wilder & the trend is down overall from here out. If he sticks around too long I think he could be getting fed to top 20ish prospects in 18 months. That said I don't think his ego lets him stick around long enough to be fed to top 20ish guys, but who knows. I just don't think he'll be beating top 20ish guys verrrrrry soooooon.

**PeepeePoopooMan** · 03-12-2021, 01:44 PM

The best part is he brought it on himself

Racial anxiety destroyed Wilder