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the usas motto is "stop the steal" so you could be onto something...
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some of your claims dont make a whole lot of sense though. barrera ducked hamed? they werent even in the same division. that was barrera's first fight at 126.Comment
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I'm sorry for my mistake, I did misread or misunderstand your original effort.
Doesn't it serve to reason winners tend to have an advantage?
Also, all else being equal, do you think it's really that fair the UK and US or any other modern state with good infrastructure fights mother ****ers from Nambia and ****? How many great training facilities the third world even have? Let alone trainers with actual professional experience.
Far as Joshua's concerned, you don't think being physically superior, or, you know, just in shape, is a major advantage? Josh wasn't a lamb for slaughter, he went out there and dropped Ruiz which came about to being his mistake. I don't see any evidence at all he couldn't have won the first by being safe or that he still could have won the second without being safe. Something wrong? Kay, but also, clearly the wrong game plan because Joshua never did stand with Ruiz.Comment
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Nowhere else in the world can compare to the corruption surrounding Canelo. That is a fact. America likes to build up one shining star in Boxing, and it is Canelo these days. He is unbeatable, roided to the moon, had about six gift decisions, has every single thing in his favour on every card. He is a massive fraud and a hype job, but the Americans insist on pushing their nonsense. Nowhere else in the world does it the same. You can point out poor refereeing, or dodgy judging in some countries, but that stuff follows Canelo in every fight. And it isn't a new thing, it has always been the case. It was Floyd before Canelo, Roy before Floyd, Tyson before Roy, etc. All on roids, all gifted fights and given special treatment, on PEDs. Referee Joe Cortez in the Floyd-Hatton fight is a hilarious example.Comment
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Britain is just as corrupt. the US is the home of boxing and the majority of big fights are there so you're going to experience a higher quantity of fkery. However the UK has always proven to be dodgy.
we've had dodgy scorecards in the uk for a while.
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It depends on how those advantages came about. Most times, like 9/10, the American, and a lesser extent but still seeking them out for the vast majority of their fights, Mexico, look to stack the deck and load the table. Those advantages didn't come about by accident. They are orchestrated by intent. No other nation comes close. The only way there are advantages, is if it's just a case of the cards falling like that.
If advantages do happen for a Brit or a Russian say, it is orchestrated by the American to try and take as much credit away as they can. Look at Lennox vs Tyson for example. The advantage for Lewis is he's the fresher of the two. But the fight not happening years before was due to Tyson ducking the fight. The only time Lewis could get his hands on Tyson, was when they fought. But here's the thing. What were Lewis' choices in this regard? The world was calling for the fight, so it made all the sense in the world because Lewis doesn't duck anyone and understands why the boxing world wants the fight. Before the fight, most Americans were saying not only was Tyson going to win, but he was going to win by KO. The 1st choice would be taking the fight like he did and winning. But afterwards, Americans will smear him and say he ducked the fight until Tyson was past his best, even though it's the usual lies because it was Tyson who ducked. Tyson has an inbuilt excuse for losing to Lewis because of him being past his best. But that's the setup for Americans i'm talking about in these situations. Americans will seek an excuse, and what better than "I lost because i was past my best"? They won't get into the ring until late in their careers because they don't believe they can win the fight. Get in there earlier and their career can take a nose dive on the loss. They protect it at all costs. But this is a sport first, not a business. The 2nd choice for Lewis is to not take the fight. But why if the world is calling for it and most are saying your opponent is going to win? If you don't duck fights, you would never take this option as it makes no sense. But if you didn't because you were the fresher fighter, they would be slandered and called a coward who ducked the fight because they were scared because they would have been knocked out. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. No matter which way you turn, Americans have it set up to make sure this is the case. They need to discredit you at all costs. You see this on forums of Americans hating British fighters even though it's all slander. It's poison. The ones guilty of the crimes, are actually the Americans. They project that towards us and accuse us of being guilty when we're the f3cking innocent ones in all of this. I've been on forums for two decades and know how Americans work. I know all about the hypocrisy, contradictions, slander, ducking fights, deflections when you directly ask them on their poisonous comments or just ignoring it and running away. I'm even in the middle of this situation right now with another weirdo if you want to check it out to see what are typical behaviours. It's the same thing every time. The same characteristics without fail like you've got the same model of robot set to attack. It's pathological delusions. It's f3cking creepy. That's why i don't like forums and consider them to be cesspits. You can't get a rational discussion up if your life depended on it.
However, that is not all for the Tyson situation. Tyson and Finkle were still looking for as many advantages as they could get. So when Lewis lost and won the rematch, that is when they took the fight as they wanted to jump on the chance Lewis not being at his best because he may still have the recent KO loss on his mind. Then add in the fact that when Rahman had the titles, Tyson was looking to fight him in a way he never did with Lewis (Wilder pulled the same shlt with wanting Ruiz but not AJ after he lost, only to run away again when AJ got the titles back) So not matter what, Americans will seek every advantage they can because that is the way they operate. It's cowardice personified. Then when you add in the corruption with judges and refs, never wanting to travel to make sure they have the right set up to win, Americans now have a loaded table and a stacked deck. But guess what, Americans still have a lesser collective resume than the UK. Even though nearly all our defeats have come due to not being prepared properly, and the US having 5 times our numbers, you actually see just how weak it is over there. Create a level playing field with everyone prepared properly, the American and Mexican would barely win a fight. Your averages are already shocking. Look at how many good world class wins Americans get before their career is over? It's 1 or 2. Now look at the Brits, Ukrainians, Russians and Japanese. And with all those advantages too. Look at how many wins Americans get overseas when they travel. If the opponent isn't in any situation, the American losses nearly every single time. You have the worst overseas record for any nation.
I only include fringe world level to the very top level. I don't include those from Nambia or other such nations in all of this for anyone. Those that do rise above in such nations, set up base in the US anyway and get the best sparring and training camps. Which fighter from such nations has a Brit, Japanese, Russian or Ukrainian sought to get advantages over like Americans and Mexicans do over everyone else? Exactly. We don't even have a decent win over anyone from such a nation that doesn't have the best set up if they reach world level.
AJ not being right mentally going into the fight was the disadvantage. Not his size or physicality. If you do that you'll just end up nit-picking. Fury was bigger than Wilder, but wait, Wilder has more power. You see? Just like Wlad/Haye. When Haye moved up, he was then a Heavyweight. Yes Wlad had the size advantage, but i don't include such situations because Haye would have been draining himself had he decided to stay at Cruiserweight. His toe, now that's a different case. But the size difference? No. When AJ had the rematch and had himself right where it mattered, he was then able to focus on the task and make sure to get his titles back. Sure there were positives to come out of it because it forced AJ to expand on his game and use different weapons to win a fight like fighting off the backfoot instead of always being the one to come forward. He evolved. But an excuse cannot stand up to scrutiny. The truth always will. That's the difference. Mikey losing to Spence and Leo to tank stands because it's obvious why they lost, so i don't see that as a way to see those losses as a negative the same way Americans see it for us when we do. Jesus, there are people all over different forums insinuating Khan losing to Canelo and Brook to Golovkin was down to them getting exposed and making sly comments towards it. Same with Khan and Brook being shot against Crawford and people acting like they were f3cking prime or something. It's preposterous. Look at the comments towards Warrington being out for 16 months and getting in there with a style he shouldn't just in case he isn't firing on all cylinders. Now look at another fight in Taylor fighting in a unification and undisputed with only 1 round in 19 months. You know what the extremists are going to say when he losses that fight. He'll be called a hype job and they'll pretend he was at his best like they did with everyone else, even though taylor is the superior fighter who would slap the taste out of Ramirez's mouth if he was at his best. He's not on Taylor's level. Even Prograis would bounce him. That's why he ducked him twice. Once as a mandatory, the other when he refused to join the WBSS tournament. But here he is acting un-American and taking this fight without trying to get out of it with money being used as the excuse like they always do when their opponent is firing. Don't play games and protect those who make this sport the shlthole it is. You should act like a real fan and put them to the sword by telling them to fight who they should and to stop ducking all the time. If fans refuse to watch them on TV or by buying tickets, where else can they go? They can only operate if they have the help they need. The fans.Comment
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Sorry, but that is beyond crazy and untrue. You're uneducated on the subject if you think that. That's if you're a Brit anyway. I know Americans like to disguise themselves to try and create a narrative. The list of robberies is too long to mention for the US. And that is just one way for corruption to exist over there.Comment
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