Why do boxing fans NOT UNDERSTAND weight draining effects for fight night?

[Thuglife Nelo]

I see posters somewhat dumbfounded when they say “how can Canelo go up to 175?” LMAO

PRO Boxing is the ONLY SPORT that exploits the gullibility from fans about the scale. Of course MMA is more comical, but we don’t need to talk about that garbage..

Could you imagine in any Olympic game where athletes are abusing their weight for the competition?! It’s unheard of. You would never see Hussain Bolt or Michael Phelps deplete their body for the nature of a “weight class.” If they did, one would ask “whyTF do it, I don’t get it?!” That shet ain’t going to help win any meter dash. Same thing as Astronauts gotta be tip top with no medical ailments to lift off and it’s monitored highly.

Errol Spence chooses to DRAIN at 147. It means he can easily compete at 154-160 if didn’t comply to draining.

Canelo isnt shedding water like his younger days. His advantage is fighting guys whom are draining at their weight classes, irrelevant to Canelo’s initial grind where he did it too. Canelo doubters think he’s draining like the rest for 168-175. The dude still looks “small.” Compared to Yildirim, that Turk was like 185lbs in the ring easily.

kovalev, Smith, Fielding. It’s their fault that their draining effect cant fulfill competitive athleticism with the other guy who isn’t impaired water the week of the fight. That’s their fault, not Canelo’s.

and you wonder why PAC is perfect at 147.

[_original_]

Yeah makes you wonder how many fighters would benefit from fighting at their natural yet fit weight class. Miguel Berchelt looked terrible last fight and paid the price, the byproduct of dangerous weight trimming. It’s comical that guys like Teofimo and Haney are coming in to weigh 135.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Yeah makes you wonder how many fighters would benefit from fighting at their natural yet fit weight class. Miguel Berchelt looked terrible last fight and paid the price, the byproduct of dangerous weight trimming. It’s comical that guys like Teofimo and Haney are coming in to weigh 135.

That’s all part of the game. Everyone impairs themselves. But when Haney, Garcia, Lopez “grow out of it” and in their prime we’ll see where they CHOOSE to fight. Some guys aren’t genetically destined to be big or are thick boned. Bone density standards vary in humans.

[BLASTER1]

I know what you are saying but it doesn't always work like it does for Canelo.
Some guys rehydrate huge which gives them a big weight advantage.
Lopez/Loma for example.
The trick is to know when the body dont want to play them games nomore then your in trouble.
Aka Berchalt.

[Roadblock]

I see posters somewhat dumbfounded when they say “how can Canelo go up to 175?” LMAO

PRO Boxing is the ONLY SPORT that exploits the gullibility from fans about the scale. Of course MMA is more comical, but we don’t need to talk about that garbage..

Could you imagine in any Olympic game where athletes are abusing their weight for the competition?! It’s unheard of. You would never see Hussain Bolt or Michael Phelps deplete their body for the nature of a “weight class.” If they did, one would ask “whyTF do it, I don’t get it?!” That shet ain’t going to help win any meter dash. Same thing as Astronauts gotta be tip top with no medical ailments to lift off and it’s monitored highly.

Errol Spence chooses to DRAIN at 147. It means he can easily compete at 154-160 if didn’t comply to draining.

Canelo isnt shedding water like his younger days. His advantage is fighting guys whom are draining at their weight classes, irrelevant to Canelo’s initial grind where he did it too. Canelo doubters think he’s draining like the rest for 168-175. The dude still looks “small.” Compared to Yildirim, that Turk was like 185lbs in the ring easily.

kovalev, Smith, Fielding. It’s their fault that their draining effect cant fulfill competitive athleticism with the other guy who isn’t impaired water the week of the fight. That’s their fault, not Canelo’s.

and you wonder why PAC is perfect at 147.

The difference is Phelps or Bolt are not fighting another man their same weight, weight size ratio is not going to determine youre running or swimming, the biggest perceived advantage in professional fighting is to be as big as you can be for the weight class.

The art is to manipulate the 30hrs between weigh-in and fight time so that you are as light as can be for the weigh-in and then be your prime fighting weight 30hrs later.

If you get it right you are a machine and very big for the weight class, if you get it wrong you can be a ****** out and badly weakened, this is not a on off deal, its a sliding scale where you can dry out say 15lbs and be fine, dry out 17lbs and youre drained , its the straw that broke the camels back is how it is with weight and fighters.

Pac is not perfect at 147 he is a small WW , if he were to fight lets say a prime Ray Leonard he would be 10-15 pounds smaller fight night and get put to sleep.

These guys are not trying to exploit the public , they are trying to beat their opponents and will try and get every advantage they can within the rules, the fighters know what the deal is with weight, its the gullibility of the fans that dont understand weight like CWs and guys that dry out 20lbs or more, the fighters are just playing the game to win.

[Thuglife Nelo]

The difference is Phelps or Bolt are not fighting another man their same weight, weight size ratio is not going to determine youre running or swimming, the biggest perceived advantage in professional fighting is to be as big as you can be for the weight class.

The length of a stride, which varies, is complicated because of the size of the human. If we wanted to realistically balance in a race competition then we would set a weight class to have IDEA of what’s “fair.” Not all racers have the same weight, height, arm length. I mean look at racers have to extend their neck to the finish line. These variables all matter if there was a SET CLASS. My point is that boxing fans need to realize, regardless of what we think is fair, boxers CHOOSE to endure whatever it is THEY want to accomplish. This is why we ridicule when posters say “well why does he have to move up” with the same idiots who say “oh he’s taking advantage of that class” or when he moves up “ oh he ducked...”. just comical things that unfortunately youd think vet posters would understand and therefore question their knowledge about athletics let alone what they’ve learned about our sport.

WHEN everything cancels out and we acknowledge what boxers are doing, Canelo is doing no wrong with weights, and that’s not synonymous to bullshet card theories as if we’re in 2013... I spar guys with varying weights but more or less my size. Anywhere from 20lbs less to 20lbs higher. There is respect in the gym if not some spar war due to circumstances. I’ve said it many times, Canelo lost to Floyd fair and square, but I know for sure that Canelo at a more desired weight (even 155) at the time would’ve given him an edge. And I always bump a doubtful Floyd fan whom argue that 2lbs wouldn’t make a difference, yet Floyd shamelessly moved his 144 agreement with Marquez to 146. Floyd fans NEVER ACKNOWLEDGE that hypocrisy. They say “oh he was inactivate for two years” yet he can’t shed 2lbs for the supposed most athletic and disciplined boxer. Cmon. Even Lara gains 10lb+ in his weigh ins and he is thin, yet Floyd diehards think he didn’t gain as such when he looked soft on fight night. Al Haymon advised Post Floyd to not disclose weights to HBO...

[YoungManRumble]

Slightly unrelated, though not. I saw people saying how incredibly ripped Berchelt looked but just as many were saying he looked drained/dehydrated and so forth. I mean in hindsight it was pretty obvious since he started drinking water and eating canned peaches seconds after making weight. Oddly enough at the time I think Ward or Bradley (Probably Ward) was saying how they liked to see that? Then I think the next day Bradley was commenting how Valdez "won" the weigh in because Berchelt folded so quickly to needing hydration and nutrients. Probably the story of all the late betting action on Valdez. Smart folks waiting til the final hour to drop it after the public put it all on Berchelt to further grease their Valdez to win/KO odds.

[PRINCEKOOL]

You should not worry about the fans, but more so? Why do fighters still insist on weight draining themselves?

Fighters with certain mentalities weight drain themselves.

Of course weight draining affects your performance, but why do they do it? It is influenced by a fighters character.

Alvarez wants to feel as if he is the big man. So do all fighters who excessively weight drain themselves.

[Bain01D]

I see posters somewhat dumbfounded when they say “how can Canelo go up to 175?” LMAO

PRO Boxing is the ONLY SPORT that exploits the gullibility from fans about the scale. Of course MMA is more comical, but we don’t need to talk about that garbage..

Could you imagine in any Olympic game where athletes are abusing their weight for the competition?! It’s unheard of. You would never see Hussain Bolt or Michael Phelps deplete their body for the nature of a “weight class.” If they did, one would ask “whyTF do it, I don’t get it?!” That shet ain’t going to help win any meter dash. Same thing as Astronauts gotta be tip top with no medical ailments to lift off and it’s monitored highly.

Errol Spence chooses to DRAIN at 147. It means he can easily compete at 154-160 if didn’t comply to draining.

Canelo isnt shedding water like his younger days. His advantage is fighting guys whom are draining at their weight classes, irrelevant to Canelo’s initial grind where he did it too. Canelo doubters think he’s draining like the rest for 168-175. The dude still looks “small.” Compared to Yildirim, that Turk was like 185lbs in the ring easily.

kovalev, Smith, Fielding. It’s their fault that their draining effect cant fulfill competitive athleticism with the other guy who isn’t impaired water the week of the fight. That’s their fault, not Canelo’s.

and you wonder why PAC is perfect at 147.

I suppose a good question would be, do the benefits outweigh the negatives? Does the weight/size advantage make that much of a difference?
when it’s clear the negative impact of a weight cut is huge, is it worth the risk?
But you do see it in more sports than you state, things like weightlifting, motor racing, jockeys etc

[Thuglife Nelo]

Alvarez wants to feel as if he is the big man. So do all fighters who excessively weight drain themselves.

I’m not sure you understand weight draining...

If Alvarez wanted to feel “as the big man” he’d be fighting exclusively at just 160. He is 30. His counterpart generation, others, like Spence and Jermall Charlo are draining.