Comments Thread For: Fury's Father Tears Apart Wilder, Offers Job To Breland

[davefromvancouv]

Something else to consider. Let's for one moment entertain that what you say is true and put yourself in Wilder's shoes.

So let's say Fury cheated and that with a level playing field, Wilder will beat Fury.
We also know Wilder had a contract that said he legally could have his rematch. All he had to do was insist on it by a certain date. Screw the networks, screw the financial wrangling -- the contract says you can have that fight if you insist on it or you can sue for breach of contract.
Why wouldn't you press for all with all your might when you know you absolutely had it for sure? Just say screw the commercial terms, whatever, I want that fight and I want my belt back. Even be polite to the champ to get the fight.

Wilder's actions: allowing the endless delay, all the ridiculous accusations.... these are the actions of someone who isn't burning with a need for that fight.

On the contrary, Wilder's actions tell you he is doing everything he can to make the fight happen. He's just letting Fury know he's in big trouble if Fury decides to man up and fight. And Fury's actions are telling you, he knows...

[davefromvancouv]

What about the special drugs Deontay took to temporarily boost his punching power in the first fight but which were absorbed by the end of the fight because of all the adrenaline?

What a, frankly, ridiculous argument.

There was this thing that affected the fight. But no test can detect it. You'll just have to take my word for it -- but it was there, trust me.

You should be embarassed to float such a weak argument.

You are aware that drug tests evolve over time and not all illegal drugs are detected? Wilder said he felt weak before the fight and believes the gloves were manipulated to cause maximum damage, which is a known feature of those horsehair gloves. You can adjust the padding to expose the fist, as has been shown in photographs and videos.

[billeau2]

Actually nothing DUMBER then someone insulting someone spelling the insult wrong “dummer” ???

Do you ever get it right on here ,you can’t even pin point anything i said that’s false but this is always the case so post random things without backing it up like cowards do with little intelligence. Like I said you’re going to get picked apart once again ,you should really stay in the Fantasy section with the make believe beefs .


This is what you came into the thread with

“Kindergarten? You simp! Ha!!! We know yu cannot read based on your posting. Simp! Ha x2”

Come on Silly Billy your pea brain can do better then that ,can’t it ?

Spelling of course... the last vestige for someone who knows they are beat. Lol like most trolls, if only saying it made it so... You cannot even post a coherent intelligent thought, much less pick anyone apart. How about that bet with Shoulder Roll loser? Put your EBT where your mouth is loser HA!

[Leonbus2]

If Fury cheated, then he really didn't beat him. It's sort of like when Fury was found to have nandrolone in his system after the Klitschko fight. He really didn't BEAT Klitschko, but officially, it was still ruled a win. In a less corrupt system, it would have been changed to a no-contest.

Wilder definitely believes he was cheated and Fury is acting like he really didn't beat Wilder because he is going to great lengths, and spending a lot of money, to avoid fighting him again. Anybody else, no problem, but definitely not Wilder. If Fury really DID beat Wilder AND he's mad about what Wilder said about him, then what better place to settle your differences than in the ring? Especially if you're so much better than him?

According to boxrec Fury really DID win the fight.

Your logic is dumb. Feeling, thinking, and so forth has nothing to do with objective reality. In objective reality, Fury DID beat Wilder.

Are the schools that bad in BC? Go Leafs!

[Monty Fisto]

Yes we've been through this. And it always ends when you realize that there is a ongoing arbitration case put forth by Wilder to enforce the rematch clause. Because again, the delays were made by Arum, ESPN and Fury, not Wilder. It was when Fury expressed a desire to move on and fight someone else that Wilder realized they weren't serious about the rematch and were looking for a way out. He then initiated mediation and it has now progressed to arbitration. If Wilder wins, Fury essentially works for Wilder if he chooses not to honor the contract, having to give up a sizeable amount of his purse.

The bottom line is that there is only one side that is trying to get out of the rematch, and that's Fury. I'm pretty sure the hype surrounding Fury fighting someone else before the judgement has been made is not helping his case.

It will ony end when Fury's next fight is announced. Thus far, it's been an endless cycle of reality vs your fabulist posts about how Wilder has been cheated and is going to force this or that and how Fury will be working for Wilder.

[Monty Fisto]

You are aware that drug tests evolve over time and not all illegal drugs are detected? Wilder said he felt weak before the fight and believes the gloves were manipulated to cause maximum damage, which is a known feature of those horsehair gloves. You can adjust the padding to expose the fist, as has been shown in photographs and videos.

Yes, drug tests evolve over time. Is this your way of acknowledging Wilder's proof is indistinguishable from no proof? He felt weak??? What kind of evidence is that?

[kafkod]

You would think when all promoters start collaborating that’s a hint the fight is on and soon to be announced . It’s not even that poster who’s obviously a shill but there are other posters who are so uneducated on here they are still rolling with Wilder is stopping the fight from happening ?

It's going to be funny seeing what excuses they come with when Fury/AJ is officially anounced. Probably some bullcrap about undisclosed compensation money being payed to Wilder.

[kafkod]

Yes we've been through this. And it always ends when you realize that there is a ongoing arbitration case put forth by Wilder to enforce the rematch clause. Because again, the delays were made by Arum, ESPN and Fury, not Wilder. It was when Fury expressed a desire to move on and fight someone else that Wilder realized they weren't serious about the rematch and were looking for a way out. He then initiated mediation and it has now progressed to arbitration. If Wilder wins, Fury essentially works for Wilder if he chooses not to honor the contract, having to give up a sizeable amount of his purse.

The bottom line is that there is only one side that is trying to get out of the rematch, and that's Fury. I'm pretty sure the hype surrounding Fury fighting someone else before the judgement has been made is not helping his case.

The rematch would have happened on the original date in June if Wilder hadn't pulled out claiming he was injured.

[kafkod]

He showed you some of the evidence in October. You just don't believe it. I do.

The only evidence he showed me in October was evidence of his own weak character and lack of integrity.

[davefromvancouv]

According to boxrec Fury really DID win the fight.

Your logic is dumb. Feeling, thinking, and so forth has nothing to do with objective reality. In objective reality, Fury DID beat Wilder.

Are the schools that bad in BC? Go Leafs!

You don't win when you cheat. Regardless of the official outcome. If Fury really DID beat Wilder, he would have jumped into the ring, made more money and moved on. Right now, he's avoiding it at all costs and it's preventing him from pursuing future endeavors...