does anyone else think that Cotto vs Pac is a bit pointless.

[Ravishing]

The fact Cotto has a win over Mosley doesn't mean much for this fight. Their fighting styles are different, and Mosley would be more dangerous an opponent for Pacquiao, making for a more competitive and exciting fight.

It's just my opinion, and I hope Cotto proves me wrong, but personally I think Cotto is gonna have a nightmare against Pac.

It's still doesn't take away the fact that Cotto beat Mosley. If Mosley hadn't beat Margarito his name wouldn't even have been mentioned along with Pacquiao. Plus, it wasn't as if Pacquiao was forced to take the fight with Cotto, he wanted it.

Though Pacquiao's got a lot of speed and moves around the ring well, I think people are totally underestimating Cotto's ability with this type of style Pac's going to bring. Cotto can fight at a fast pace as proven before and Pac doesn't have the size to push Cotto like a Margarito and partially Clottey. It's going to be a completely different fight, but where I think people become jaded is when they compare the performances of both guys. But I think it's safe to say between the 2, Cotto's had the much tougher opposition in the last year or so up to when they finally step in the ring. Cotto's not going in there to be an "opponent" more than actually going in to make a statement.

Sorta reminds me when everyone was saying Cotto was going to body Margarito with the slight few saying Margarito was dangerous (including me)

[mellow_mood]

I'm still struggling to see what Cotto has done to deserve this shot, and its hard to see anything but a brutal ko by manny.

I dont know, the more i think about this fight, the less excited i get.

Mosley vs PAc, now thats a fight i could get excited about.
oh well....

oh really?????


time will tell.. time will tell..

[Chrismart]

Im going over to Vegas to watch this fight, and im really looking forward to it as Cotto and Pacquiao are 2 of my favorite active fighters.

Im looking forward to the fight, but to be honest ( i know others will disagree) 'Pacquaio Vs Marquez 3' or 'Cotto Vs Mosely' would of made more sense to me.

[shade darkar]

It's still doesn't take away the fact that Cotto beat Mosley. If Mosley hadn't beat Margarito his name wouldn't even have been mentioned along with Pacquiao. Plus, it wasn't as if Pacquiao was forced to take the fight with Cotto, he wanted it.

Though Pacquiao's got a lot of speed and moves around the ring well, I think people are totally underestimating Cotto's ability with this type of style Pac's going to bring. Cotto can fight at a fast pace as proven before and Pac doesn't have the size to push Cotto like a Margarito and partially Clottey. It's going to be a completely different fight, but where I think people become jaded is when they compare the performances of both guys. But I think it's safe to say between the 2, Cotto's had the much tougher opposition in the last year or so up to when they finally step in the ring. Cotto's not going in there to be an "opponent" more than actually going in to make a statement.

Sorta reminds me when everyone was saying Cotto was going to body Margarito with the slight few saying Margarito was dangerous (including me)

lol, at the end of the day, mosley's win over margarito put him at the top of the welterweight rankings.

i like cotto as a fighter, but he cannot fight at a fast pace for 12 rounds!

id consider a weight drained De la hoya and ricky hatton to be much tougher opponents than clottey and jennings!

[Ravishing]

lol, at the end of the day, mosley's win over margarito put him at the top of the welterweight rankings.

i like cotto as a fighter, but he cannot fight at a fast pace for 12 rounds!

id consider a weight drained De la hoya and ricky hatton to be much tougher opponents than clottey and jennings!

I have a tough time believing Oscar & Hatton are tougher opponents than Clottey.

If you look at the last 3 opponents Pacquiao's faced, you can't tell me Cotto is parallel to either of those guys right now. The fact that they made a catchweight shows they know there's a risk.

The thing about Cotto's stamina that people seem not to understand is, he CAN go all 12 rounds. How many fighters do you know that have a full tank at the end of a fight? Plus, people assume Pac's not going to get hit, but when he's in there with a challenge he does get hit because he takes risks just like Cotto. So who's to say Pacquiao doesn't get hit with one shot and can't recover? People have written off Cotto, but if he wins then people will be like "Ohhh mannn Cotto's back!!", but in reality...did he ever leave? Boxers get written off way too soon these days.

[Iceta]

its going to be a great war and cotto will win with a mid to late round stoppage i think alot of u think cotto is just a opponent no he is the ww champ of the world. He should be the wbo and ibf ww champ but the ibf belt wasn't on the line. Cotto has beaten people pac would never be able to beat. Mosley would destroy pac seriously lol wouldn't be close clottey would just smother him to death and marg would stop him. Cotto will win nov 14

Wrong. I know Clottey got stripped, but you have to remember that Clottey won the IBF belt in vacant fashion by beating Zab Judah who had not won against a meaningful opponent in years. Margarito had to give up the IBF belt to fight Cotto. So in actuality, it is Shane Mosley who should be the IBF and WBA champ.

And I agree with the TS on this. There is a reason why Pacquiao went after Cotto and avoided Mosley. Mosley totally beat down the guy who has victories over both Cotto and Clottey. Add this to the fact that Mosley is the fresher of the two and not having to heal from a bad cut. I know Cotto is bending more where the money is concerned by 5%, but Mosley eventually decided that he was willing to go all the way down to 140 and Manny still didn't want to fight him. And Cotto's fans can only live off of those narrow victories over Clottey and Mosley for so long. He needs to deliver the goods in this fight if intelligent boxing fans like me are ever going to be convinced that he is an A-level fighter.

[Pullcounter]

I'm still struggling to see what Cotto has done to deserve this shot, and its hard to see anything but a brutal ko by manny.

I dont know, the more i think about this fight, the less excited i get.

Mosley vs PAc, now thats a fight i could get excited about.
oh well....

this fight is just a payday for both. the winner will get no credit and the loser will have excuses.

the only thing is that if pac wins that will be another title in another division thus setting up pac/pbf perhaps the biggest fight in boxing for the last 5 years.

[Iceta]

It's still doesn't take away the fact that Cotto beat Mosley. If Mosley hadn't beat Margarito his name wouldn't even have been mentioned along with Pacquiao. Plus, it wasn't as if Pacquiao was forced to take the fight with Cotto, he wanted it.

Though Pacquiao's got a lot of speed and moves around the ring well, I think people are totally underestimating Cotto's ability with this type of style Pac's going to bring. Cotto can fight at a fast pace as proven before and Pac doesn't have the size to push Cotto like a Margarito and partially Clottey. It's going to be a completely different fight, but where I think people become jaded is when they compare the performances of both guys. But I think it's safe to say between the 2, Cotto's had the much tougher opposition in the last year or so up to when they finally step in the ring. Cotto's not going in there to be an "opponent" more than actually going in to make a statement.

Sorta reminds me when everyone was saying Cotto was going to body Margarito with the slight few saying Margarito was dangerous (including me)

If you are going to go that route than I think it is fair to say that Cotto's name probably wouldn't have been mentioned along with Pacquiao if his fight with Mosley took place in Vegas with a neutral refree that would not wipe up a wet spot on the canvass to buy Cotto time to recover from a bomb that Mosley landed. I thought Mosley beat Cotto regardless of what people say, because he landed a lot more power punches than Cotto did. Cotto just landed more jabs. And I think Cotto would get dominated by Mosley in a rematch.

[studentofthegam]

How can anyone who ever watched boxing not give Cotto a chance? This is a very exciting fight. The giant killer versus the comeback kid. Both are rank in the P4P list. does it get much better. Oh and the winner will get to fight against the best in the world. You decide who that is

[oside4life]

Wrong. I know Clottey got stripped, but you have to remember that Clottey won the IBF belt in vacant fashion by beating Zab Judah who had not won against a meaningful opponent in years. Margarito had to give up the IBF belt to fight Cotto. So in actuality, it is Shane Mosley who should be the IBF and WBA champ.

And I agree with the TS on this. There is a reason why Pacquiao went after Cotto and avoided Mosley. Mosley totally beat down the guy who has victories over both Cotto and Clottey. Add this to the fact that Mosley is the fresher of the two and not having to heal from a bad cut. I know Cotto is bending more where the money is concerned by 5%, but Mosley eventually decided that he was willing to go all the way down to 140 and Manny still didn't want to fight him. And Cotto's fans can only live off of those narrow victories over Clottey and Mosley for so long. He needs to deliver the goods in this fight if intelligent boxing fans like me are ever going to be convinced that he is an A-level fighter.

Cotto is not a, A class fighter come on seriously. He beat mosley, mosley didn't even dispute. O and mosley is the one saying cotto would be a step down we all know it's money for him these days. Also, i'm afraid to tell u that he beat clottey too. Which is more of a robbery juan diaz last weekend or cotto and clottey. HOw many times did cotto have clottey in the corner. If he never got that cut over his eye i think cotto wins easier then he did. Look at cotto's ww resume then look at pac ww resume o wait it's just weight drained dlh. Ha Cotto is going to shock a lot of people on the 14 of november. Also i know styles makes fights but now lets see, can pacman beat, margo nope, can he beat mosley nope can he beat clottey nope and can he beat Cotto NOPE