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  • moochi
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    #21
    Originally posted by Neuraxis
    Make sure you tell that to the future IBF LHW champion.
    well it is true.......if he struggled clearly against a young garay at home, then how can you call him a champ....

    paul briggs would knock him out easily....because garay kept hitting him with hard shots, but obviously garay isn't a steel fist like briggs..

    but nobody here in the states has heard of erdei....so where are his championship merits?

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    • reality
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      #22
      Originally posted by trinidadpr87
      Here they are
      What do you guys think?
      I wouldn't take much notice of their rankings, its a great website to check for fighters records but if you want to see good rankings check out Ring Magazines or ********* rankings.

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      • Neuraxis
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        #23
        Originally posted by reality
        I wouldn't take much notice of their rankings, its a great website to check for fighters records but if you want to see good rankings check out Ring Magazines or ********* rankings.
        As of friday, Ring Magazine and ********* both had DM and RJJ still in the top 5 for LHW which is insane.

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        • Atwa_66
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          #24
          Originally posted by Neuraxis
          Yeah, but he's young and he's not beaten anyone. We'll have to wait and see how he does against Briggs.
          He is going to destroy Briggs, It's going to be one hell of a night for Golota and Adamek.

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            #25
            Originally posted by reality
            I wouldn't take much notice of their rankings, its a great website to check for fighters records but if you want to see good rankings check out Ring Magazines or ********* rankings.
            I agree, Boxrec.com is an awesome place, despite their rankings being hideous

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            • Super_Lightweight
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              #26
              lol

              Johnson, Erdei, then Tarver...whoa.

              I really want to respect you, but at times you make it very difficult, man. At least pretend you have some sense, brother.

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              • Neuraxis
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                #27
                Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
                Johnson, Erdei, then Tarver...whoa.

                I really want to respect you, but at times you make it very difficult, man. At least pretend you have some sense, brother.
                You're right. Johnson and Tarver don't even belong in the top 5. What have either of them done besides beat a shot RJJ. Mark up Johnson's 9 losses with wins against Woods and a shot Harding and Tarver's wins against shot versions Reggie Johnson, Griffin, and Harding and I don't see what you are getting at. How about you make a top 10 list.

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                • davico
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Atwa_66
                  He is going to destroy Briggs, It's going to be one hell of a night for Golota and Adamek.
                  What would you like to bet on that!

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                  • Super_Lightweight
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                    #29
                    lol

                    You're right. Johnson and Tarver don't even belong in the top 5. What have either of them done besides beat a shot RJJ. Mark up Johnson's 9 losses with wins against Woods and a shot Harding and Tarver's wins against shot versions Reggie Johnson, Griffin, and Harding and I don't see what you are getting at. How about you make a top 10 list.
                    You're a little off your rocker, dude. Everyone knows that half of those losses Johnson suffered were very bad decisions rendered in someone else's hometown. Johnson KO'd Thomas Ulrich whom I'm sure you thought was going to be hot ****. If Johnson hadn't gotten the Kayo, Ulrich would have won on the scorecards almost without a doubt.

                    Johnson just beat Tarver, in a close fight. Johnson beat Woods, and yes, Woods is a top 10 LightHeavy, so that win is significant. He was able to beat Woods in his hometown (twice in most people's eyes). There was never a need for a rematch but the judges were biased or just ******, even according to the Brits.


                    Johnson's draw with undefeated Daniel Judah was a farce. Judah after the fight stated simply, "I thought I lost the fight." Johnson also has a win over Eric Harding, who recently won in his comeback fight vs David Telesco I believe.

                    Johnson lost a hard-fought majority decision to Julio Gonzalez, who was the first to really beat Dariusz Michalczweski (your man). Johnson had a highly disputed decision rendered against him vs Sven Ottke.

                    As for Tarver, whether Roy was old or not, at least he was able to be competitive with Roy in the 1st fight and beat him in the 2nd fight. He beat Johnson in a lot of people's eyes. He one-punch KO'd Eric Harding in a rematch. He beat Montell Griffin all over the ring, who recently beat "undefeated" up and comer Rico Hoye in most people's opinion.

                    Erdei has one win over a top 10 lightheavy, and that's over an old Julio Gonzalez. That's IT. Erdei is more well known for having questionable decisions in his favor vs unknown fighters from Argentina than anything else.

                    Erdei does not belong in the top 3, period. I think the top 10 is fair, but the top 3...nope.

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                    • Neuraxis
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
                      You're a little off your rocker, dude. Everyone knows that half of those losses Johnson suffered were very bad decisions rendered in someone else's hometown. Johnson KO'd Thomas Ulrich whom I'm sure you thought was going to be hot ****. If Johnson hadn't gotten the Kayo, Ulrich would have won on the scorecards almost without a doubt.

                      Johnson just beat Tarver, in a close fight. Johnson beat Woods, and yes, Woods is a top 10 LightHeavy, so that win is significant. He was able to beat Woods in his hometown (twice in most people's eyes). There was never a need for a rematch but the judges were biased or just ******, even according to the Brits.


                      Johnson's draw with undefeated Daniel Judah was a farce. Judah after the fight stated simply, "I thought I lost the fight." Johnson also has a win over Eric Harding, who recently won in his comeback fight vs David Telesco I believe.

                      Johnson lost a hard-fought majority decision to Julio Gonzalez, who was the first to really beat Dariusz Michalczweski (your man). Johnson had a highly disputed decision rendered against him vs Sven Ottke.

                      As for Tarver, whether Roy was old or not, at least he was able to be competitive with Roy in the 1st fight and beat him in the 2nd fight. He beat Johnson in a lot of people's eyes. He one-punch KO'd Eric Harding in a rematch. He beat Montell Griffin all over the ring, who recently beat "undefeated" up and comer Rico Hoye in most people's opinion.

                      Erdei has one win over a top 10 lightheavy, and that's over an old Julio Gonzalez. That's IT. Erdei is more well known for having questionable decisions in his favor vs unknown fighters from Argentina than anything else.

                      Erdei does not belong in the top 3, period. I think the top 10 is fair, but the top 3...nope.
                      I was joking about Tarver and Johnson, but I am standing by my 1) Johnson 2) Erdei and 3) Tarver. Being the linear champ means something. How is 28 old? Gonzalez just stopped Telesco being the first person to do so, and Telsco nearly beat Harding. I also missed your top 10 list.

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