Pavlik was a ploy used by Arum to protect Cotto from Williams

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  • street bully
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    #11
    Originally posted by Hillary Clinton
    Nothing much.

    Need to put these Cotto/Pac/Margarito fans back in their places, they have been running wild, while I was not around
    Regulate them.

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    • Hillary Clinton
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      #12
      Originally posted by PR Boxer
      Mosley is a bigger fight legacy wise than Williams would ever have, brought a name, hall of fame resume, what did Williams bring, a close Margarito victory.

      The Williams Quintana fight was on June 7th, The Cotto - Margarito bout was signed since May.

      Williams fought Winky on April 11th, the Cotto - Clottey bout was signed a week before that date.

      Look up all the dates and if you have a brain and use of logic it will make sense if not then keep hating.
      Mosley is not a bigger legacy fight than Williams. Who did Mosley have a win over WW at that time. Collazo and he was titleless.


      Williams said he was willingly to fight instead of Gomez and Jennings, Two offers right there, yet he said no.


      Clottey - Cotto signed after Winky - Williams. The negotiations went faster
      Once Williams was available.

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      • Jone2ts
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        #13
        Arum is a beast with throwing monkey wrenches in good match ups that would help boxing.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Hillary Clinton
          Mosley is not a bigger legacy fight than Williams. Who did Mosley have a win over WW at that time. Collazo and he was titleless.


          Williams said he was willingly to fight instead of Gomez and Jennings, Two offers right there, yet he said no.


          Clottey - Cotto signed after Winky - Williams. The negotiations went faster
          Once Williams was available.
          If you think that legacy wise a Williams win is better than a Mosley win, that's just pure nuthugging right there.

          Williams lost before the Gomez fight and was fighting at 160 once Cotto was signed to fight Jennings, plus he needed a tune up after the loss to Margarito.

          Cotto - Clottey was signed one week before Winky -Williams. The Press conference was april 14th.

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            #15
            Originally posted by PR Boxer
            If you think that legacy wise a Williams win is better than a Mosley win, that's just pure nuthugging right there.

            Williams lost before the Gomez fight and was fighting at 160 once Cotto was signed to fight Jennings, plus he needed a tune up after the loss to Margarito.

            Cotto - Clottey was signed one week before Winky -Williams. The Press conference was april 14th.
            How is not Williams the better legacy win. Right now. Chad Dawson is better win than Hopkins at 175, why because of age.

            He needed a tune up for what??? To duck Williams and fight Clottey.

            Also Winky signed to fight Winky and Before Cotto signed to fight Clottey. The fight could have been there and the, But Cotto said no and Williams had to fight Winky.

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              #16
              Cotto's been a coward from day one. He ducked Floyd Mayweather in exactly the same way.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Hillary Clinton
                How is not Williams the better legacy win. Right now. Chad Dawson is better win than Hopkins at 175, why because of age.

                He needed a tune up for what??? To duck Williams and fight Clottey.

                Also Winky signed to fight Winky and Before Cotto signed to fight Clottey. The fight could have been there and the, But Cotto said no and Williams had to fight Winky.
                Because Williams only brought a close Margarito victory to the table, while Mosley brought two consecutive a win over Collazo, and two consecutive wins against Vargas (I know they were at 154 but still 2 wins over Vargas >>>>>>> one close victory over Margarito).

                He needed a tune up because he just came off a loss.

                The Williams vs. Winky fight had been in talks since July 2008 and was almost signed in December. So no the fight couldn't have been done there.

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                  #18
                  idiot, of course cotto's win is better legacy wise against mosley
                  than it would be against williams.

                  williams who? mosley is a bigger name fought oscar 2x
                  casual boxing fans dont even know williams

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by UncleSam
                    idiot, of course cotto's win is better legacy wise against mosley
                    than it would be against williams.

                    williams who? mosley is a bigger name fought oscar 2x
                    casual boxing fans dont even know williams
                    Mosley who has tainted wins over Oscar because of his drug use. Mosley was NOT the same Mosley who beat Oscar. He was past his prime, after being handled by Winky and Forrest.

                    Williams was ranked second best WW, with a title. Win over a prime Margarito. While Mosley was coming off a win against Collazo

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Hillary Clinton
                      Mosley who has tainted wins over Oscar because of his drug use. Mosley was NOT the same Mosley who beat Oscar. He was past his prime, after being handled by Winky and Forrest.

                      Williams was ranked second best WW, with a title. Win over a prime Margarito. While Mosley was coming off a win against Collazo
                      You're a bigot dude.

                      Paul Williams couldn't sell out a fight at a strip club, yet Cotto beating him is bigger than beating Shane Mosley?

                      LOL you're a supreme Hater dude

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