Calzaghe did to Lacy what Bernard did to Pavlikkk.

**ji23** · 08-17-2009, 02:16 PM

and RJJ did to Lacy what Calslappy could'nt do which was stop him

Pavlik will come back strong

**Glamour Puss** · 08-17-2009, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by ji23

and RJJ did to Lacy what Calslappy could'nt do which was stop him

Pavlik will come back strong

Lacy was prime and undefeated when Joe ripped out his heart and soul.

What does RJJ have to do w/ this?

Bernard stole Pavlik's essence. He can beat the Lockets and Rubios of the world, but he can't beat a real fighter ever again.

Williams in 10.

**- v e t -** · 08-17-2009, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by Camila

Lacy was prime and undefeated when Joe ripped out his heart and soul.

What does RJJ have to do w/ this?

Bernard stole Pavlik's essence. He can beat the Lockets and Rubios of the world, but he can't beat a real fighter ever again.

Williams in 10.

i wouldnt be surprised.... after all, im taking Williams by UD

IF he can take 160 lb power... thats the biggest variable IMO... i know Pwill can outbox him.

**MOTHER DUCKER** · 08-17-2009, 02:27 PM

Both Pavlik and Williams are b class fighters anyway..

**street bully** · 08-17-2009, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Camila

Pavlikkk is done.

Williams will tear that ass up.

Pavlik can beat any MW and most SMWs, however Hopkins took his soul, and he is not confident in himself anymore, and that beating he took lead to him becoming an alcoholic and beating up Youngstown cops. Williams by UD if not a corner stoppage.

**Dirk Diggler UK** · 08-17-2009, 02:29 PM

I agree. You cant underestimate the lasting effects of a mammoth beatdowns

**Glamour Puss** · 08-17-2009, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by street bully

Pavlik can beat any MW and most SMWs, however Hopkins took his soul, and he is not confident in himself anymore, and that beating he took lead to him becoming an alcoholic and beating up Youngstown cops. Williams by UD if not a corner stoppage.

Plus don't forget this important mathematical equation:

Jack Loew, 1 trick pony trainer=Kelly Pavlik 1 trick pony fighter < Paul Williams.

The "throw the ***ing double jab and hit him in the nuts combo" wont work against Paul.

**letsgobrady** · 08-17-2009, 02:43 PM

i think williams will win but his defense is suspect and kelly looks like he hits hard

**PittyPat** · 08-17-2009, 03:15 PM

Pavlikkk vs Williamsss. Ohhh myyy Goddd whattt aaa fighttt anddd stufff.

Yeah.

Calzaghe did to Lacy what Bernard did to Pavlikkk.