Doug Fischer: If Manny does Cotto like he did Hatton he is an all time great

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    Doug Fischer: If Manny does Cotto like he did Hatton he is an all time great

    This is from www.hbo.com/boxing

    PACQUIAO VS. COTTO: QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED

    Despite championships, adulation and all the spoils of success, questions still surround both Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Cotto at this juncture in their careers. But in their much-anticipated fight this November, the answers will come quickly when the punches start to fly.

    July 23, 2009 - by Dave Larzelere]

    This week's official announcement of the Manny Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto fight scheduled for November 14 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas brings with it a wave of excitement for fight fans. The diminutive Pacquiao, boxing's acknowledged pound-for-pound king, will move north in weight once again to fight Cotto, the current WBO welterweight champ, at an agreed-upon catch-weight of 145 pounds.

    Over the next four months, this match-up is certain to provoke a firestorm of debate among devoted followers of the sweet science. Both men are accomplished stars who inspire great passion in their fan base, and yet they have unanswered questions hanging over them at the moment—questions that will be settled once and for all when they fight in November.

    Can Cotto Keep Pace with Pacquiao?For Cotto, those questions center on a single, harrowing fight and its after-effects— his war with Antonio Margarito in July 2008. That fight is Cotto's only loss as a professional, but what a loss it was. In an electrifying fight-of-the-year candidate, Cotto took a commanding early lead, only to get steadily chopped down by his relentless opponent. Margarito was seemingly immune to pain that night, a Mexican terminator at 147 pounds. But when Margarito was subsequently caught with illegal, hardened inserts in his hand-wraps prior to his fight with Shane Mosley this past January, the speculation immediately swirled about the savage beating he'd dished out to Cotto. Was it administered with loaded gloves? If so, how much did it take out of the Puerto Rican star, and could he ever expect to be the same?

    Those questions still haunt Cotto's career more than a year later. He's had two fights since the loss to Margarito—an easy victory over Michael Jennings in February to capture the vacant WBO welterweight title, and then a June battle with the tough veteran, Joshua Clottey. Despite fighting most of the bout with a nasty gash above his left eye, Cotto found a way to eke out a split decision over Clottey. But, according to Doug Fischer, the co-editor of RingTV.com, Cotto's performance provided no conclusive answers as to whether the boxer has made it all the way back to his pre-Margarito form.

    "Some folks, like myself, were impressed with the way he gutted out a close decision against a bona fide welterweight contender, with basically one eye," Fischer explains. "But there's another camp that thinks he's just not the same guy he was. He appears to them now to be a solid welterweight, but not someone who could conceivably be the welterweight champ anymore or a top-five pound-for-pound player."

    HBO commentator Max Kellerman agrees that the verdict is still out on Cotto. He sees the fighter's best blueprint for beating Pacquiao in Cotto's victory over Shane Mosley in December 2007, but wonders whether Cotto has that kind of fight left in him. "The dominant question here is whether Cotto can handle Pacquiao's speed," Kellerman says. "And the good news for Cotto is that his timing was able to offset Mosley's speed, and Mosley's lightning fast. But is this the same Cotto who beat Mosley? He cuts more easily now, and he doesn't seem as quick as he once did. And in Pacquiao, he's going to have to offset a guy who at this moment is faster than Shane, and who's a southpaw, and who has just shown us that he can really punch, even at these higher weights."

    There's no doubt that Pacquiao presents a frightening package to any opponent right now, but he's not without question marks himself, particularly when faced with a proven heavy-handed puncher of Cotto's size and caliber. "The question for Manny is, 'Can he take a shot from a guy who has more than respectable power as a welterweight?'" Fischer says. "Because I think Cotto has the ability to catch Pacquiao and hurt him."

    "Pacquiao has looked great in his last three fights," says RingTV.com's Doug Fischer, "but he's also fought the perfect opponents, the perfect guys to make him look like a million bucks."Of course, whether Pacquiao could handle the power of naturally bigger men has been the primary subplot heading into his three most recent fights, and each time he answered with a resounding "yes" and with increasingly spectacular emphasis. Last June, in his first fight above 130 pounds, he dominated then-WBC lightweight champ David Diaz. Six months later, he moved all the way up to 147 pounds and destroyed Oscar De La Hoya in an explosive performance that catapulted him to superstardom. Then in May, he followed up his De La Hoya masterpiece with a crushing second-round knockout of junior welterweight champ, Ricky Hatton.

    It was an astonishing trio of victories that, taken as a whole, would seem to pose quite a convincing response to any doubts about Pacquiao's ability to cope with the size and pop of just about anyone. Still, doubts linger.

    "Pacquiao has looked great in his last three fights," Fischer says, "but he's also fought the perfect opponents, the perfect guys to make him look like a million bucks."

    Fischer is quick to qualify that statement by saying that he's felt that Pacquiao was the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world going back to around his second fight with Erik Morales in 2006. Like almost everyone in boxing, he is blown away by what Pacquiao is accomplishing in the ring right now. Nevertheless, victories over the slow, plodding Diaz, the old and weight-drained De La Hoya, and then the artless and overrated Hatton have not completely sold pundits that Pacquiao, a guy who won his first title as a flyweight, is up to the challenge of fighting an elite welterweight.

    The Cotto fight should put those doubts to rest one way or the other. "If Cotto still has it, Pacquiao is going to be in there against a natural welterweight in his physical prime with a lot of pride," Kellerman says. And then we'll find things out."

    Or, as Fischer puts it, "The way Pacquiao got rid of Hatton was impressive, and you have to give him credit for it, because he just blew him out of the ring. If he blows Cotto out like that, then my God…he's just a great fighter."

    And Fischer is talking great as in "all-time great." Come fight night, Cotto will seek to prove that he's still among the best pound-for-pound fighters in the sport today. But Pacquiao will be competing for an even heavier bounty: to stake his claim among the best pound-for-pound fighters the sport has ever known.
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    good read.

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    • LA BAD BOYtake2
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      Doug Fischer is a smart guy!

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        he already is an all time great fighter, but IF (big if) he were to do the same to Cotto, you seriously have to consider ranking him top 20 of all time.

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          Originally posted by ИATAS206
          he already is an all time great fighter, but IF (big if) he were to do the same to Cotto, you seriously have to consider ranking him top 20 of all time.
          Why because Cotto is a ATG fighter? No, hell no.


          Pacquiao already is an ATG fighter, and Cotto should be embarrassed if he cant walk through him and knock him out, but IMO this is an easy fight for Pacquiao.

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            What a silly thing to say from someone who is a nuthugger that is Dougie Fischer. One punch can knock a guy out, that can happen at any time, doesnt make you an all time great, Pac would need to box Cotto's socks off then finish him for it to be a very spectacular win, he's not even the underdog in this fight.

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              Originally posted by street bully
              Why because Cotto is a ATG fighter? No, hell no.


              Pacquiao already is an ATG fighter, and Cotto should be embarrassed if he cant walk through him and knock him out, but IMO this is an easy fight for Pacquiao.
              Has cotto ever been dominated in two rounds and KTFO like Ricky hatton?

              Cuz there is a big difference if pacman were to Ricky Hatton cotto then say, win in a by TKO in the 11th round in a competitive fight.

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                Originally posted by Bhopreign
                What a silly thing to say from someone who is a nuthugger that is Dougie Fischer. One punch can knock a guy out, that can happen at any time, doesnt make you an all time great, Pac would need to box Cotto's socks off then finish him for it to be a very spectacular win, he's not even the underdog in this fight.
                pacman dominated hatton though, it wasn't a lucky punch. It was pure ass whoopin'

                That's the point he's trying to make

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                  This isnt all great to me, Pac should be able to beat Cotto without too many problems...He has the style(Southpaw) and speed to make Cotto look ordinary, This fight would not make him greater than he is already.

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                    Originally posted by raycorey
                    This isnt all great to me, Pac should be able to beat Cotto without too many problems...He has the style(Southpaw) and speed to make Cotto look ordinary, This fight would not make him greater than he is already.

                    Doug Fischer isn't saying that pacman shouldn't win, what he's saying is if pacquiao destroys cotto like he did hatton, then that's impressive. While pacquiao is the favorite, no one is predicting Pacquiao to win by 2nd round KO

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