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  • #41
    Originally posted by nj_evoixgsr View Post
    his undefeated WEIGHT CLASS. people put the blame on PAC for oscar coming in weight drained and for hatton not being as good as they thought he would be.....

    that's called bull****. your just blaming the other person for your idols mistakes or to make your idol look good (JMM/PBF).

    TRUE STORY:

    PAC DOMINATED PBF'S last two opponents in a much better fashion than PBF.
    PAC holds the WIN over JMM.

    /end Story

    if your going to reply back to that don't pull bull****. "oh in my opinion, JMM won." who gives a **** what you think. PAC IS ON TOP. HE IS THE FACE OF BOXING. not a guy running his mouth like an idiot thinking he's a cashcow that can't sell tickets. another true story!
    Pacquiao did what he had to do and he did it well - noone is arguing that.

    People just want to add a little perspective to the wins and not ignore the fact that the wins Pac has over Hatton and DLH are not as good as they appear on paper and they certainly do not make him a top 10 ATG that some Pac fans are claiming.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by - JCHING - View Post
      Pacquiao did what he had to do and he did it well - noone is arguing that.

      People just want to add a little perspective to the wins and not ignore the fact that the wins Pac has over Hatton and DLH are not as good as they appear on paper and they certainly do not make him a top 10 ATG that some Pac fans are claiming.
      And beating a shot Casa and beating Juan Diaz is a better win than Hatton right.

      And lets add the fact that Marquez was losing against both of them before he knocked them out, and add that he is nowhere near as fast as paquiao and is actually old himself trying to fight Oscar and hatton where it was pacquiao speed and power that they couldnt handle while Marquez defense arent close as good as it was in the lower weight class.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by victorythagr8 View Post
        And beating a shot Casa and beating Juan Diaz is a better win than Hatton right.

        And lets add the fact that Marquez was losing against both of them before he knocked them out, and add that he is nowhere near as fast as paquiao and is actually old himself trying to fight Oscar and hatton where it was pacquiao speed and power that they couldnt handle while Marquez defense arent close as good as it was in the lower weight class.
        JMM was not losing against Casamayor or Diaz before he KO'd them. The fights may have been close but JMM pulled away and KO'd them.

        Pacquiao's speed and power lead to the manner of the results, but JMM would still get the same result against Oscar and more than likely against Ricky, just in a different way.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by - JCHING - View Post
          JMM was not losing against Casamayor or Diaz before he KO'd them. The fights may have been close but JMM pulled away and KO'd them.

          Pacquiao's speed and power lead to the manner of the results, but JMM would still get the same result against Oscar and more than likely against Ricky, just in a different way.
          Really JMM was losing against both of them.

          And against hatton and oscar especially with his defense is nowhere near as good as it was at 130...we dont know at all if he could beat both of them. I give him a better shot against a weight drain oscar because hatton hug and hold style most likely would frustrate the hell out of marquez since marquez is not as strong as pacquaio.
          Last edited by victorythagr8; 08-14-2009, 09:00 AM.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
            Please understand this before putting that other fighter on a pedestal. JMM fought at a weight he had never fought at before and knocked out two champions who had never been knocked out in their whole career. Skills win fights, enjoy Sept. 19th and not make decisions before the date is upon us, if so it seems its just another way to hate on Floyd.
            Jmm would lose to both, at 140 & 147 he woulda been just as slow as oscar. At lightweight he's lost a noticeable amount of handspeed. I think it'll be even worse at the higher weightclasses. He just doesn't have the speed and power combo to really blitz hatton like pacquiao did. You Floydboys always trying to downplay Pac's wins, yall were rallying for him to get Ktfo by oscar and now he's weightdrained and dehydrated, Oscar has even said he wasn't neither. IDK y he's lie about that.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
              Please understand this before putting that other fighter on a pedestal. JMM fought at a weight he had never fought at before and knocked out two champions who had never been knocked out in their whole career. Skills win fights, enjoy Sept. 19th and not make decisions before the date is upon us, if so it seems its just another way to hate on Floyd.
              All speculation. JMM isn't this shadow lurking over Pacquiao to where he can beat everyone Pacquiao beats.
              Last edited by Ravishing; 08-14-2009, 09:20 AM.

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              • #47
                what JMM fans fail to realize is that Marquez couldnt carry his speed in the higher weightclass something that pacquaio was able to do and making him move up in weight will not help him at all. This is the same reason why people give pacquaio more of chance of beating floyd than marquez because pacquaio shown he hasnt slown down at all
                Last edited by victorythagr8; 08-14-2009, 10:00 AM.

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                • #48
                  i dont think marquez will have an easy fight with hatton nor dela hoya.

                  marquez doesnt have the speed to dodge those two, what would happen if marquez was caught by dela hoya or hatton punch?

                  and one more thing, if pac defeats cotto. would marques also defeats him?

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
                    Please understand this before putting that other fighter on a pedestal. JMM fought at a weight he had never fought at before and knocked out two champions who had never been knocked out in their whole career. Skills win fights, enjoy Sept. 19th and not make decisions before the date is upon us, if so it seems its just another way to hate on Floyd.
                    He MAY have BEATIN them but he would NOT have stopped Oscar in 8 and Ricky in 2.. no way no how......and im not to sure with his counter punching style he would have beatin Oscar.....

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by bhopreign View Post
                      please understand this before putting that other fighter on a pedestal. Jmm fought at a weight he had never fought at before and knocked out two champions who had never been knocked out in their whole career. Skills win fights, enjoy sept. 19th and not make decisions before the date is upon us, if so it seems its just another way to hate on floyd.

                      great post!!!!

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