Will Cotto's Stamina get him knocked out ?

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  • Pullcounter
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    #11
    Originally posted by El Tigeraje
    I think it will I want to know your opinion because lately he got tired against Clottey,mosley,and margarito.
    cotto's stamina (next to his porous defense) is his greatest liability. if cotto don't hurt pac to the body early or he doesn't outright stop pac before the 6th, he will get stopped late, especially if he starts backing up and/or sits on the ropes.

    everyone who backs up against pac or sits on the ropes against pac gets destroyed. morales beat pac by backing him up. jmm nearly beat pac by standing his ground and throwing combos.

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    • isiahmike
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      #12
      Originally posted by El Tigeraje
      I think it will I want to know your opinion because lately he got tired against Clottey,mosley,and margarito.
      in my opinion i honestly don't think so!!!!

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        #13
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        cotto's stamina (next to his porous defense) is his greatest liability. if cotto don't hurt pac to the body early or he doesn't outright stop pac before the 6th, he will get stopped late, especially if he starts backing up and/or sits on the ropes.

        everyone who backs up against pac or sits on the ropes against pac gets destroyed. morales beat pac by backing him up. jmm nearly beat pac by standing his ground and throwing combos.
        what he said

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        • isiahmike
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          #14
          Originally posted by Ravishing
          I don't think so.

          I think the assumption is Pac is going to apply this incredible amount of pressure on Cotto, but I don't see that happening. Pac himself is very aware of Cotto's power, so I think he'll try going in and out and selecting his shots carefully as Cotto will too.

          It'll be a shootout eventually, but I don't see Pacquiao's size being affective enough to apply the type of pressure that Cotto's faced against much bigger opponents.

          If Cotto is able to land solid body punches early in the fight, THAT might actually work against Pacquiao's stamina. We shall see...
          Well said i agree with your comment with cotto's powershots slowing pacman down especially when he hits pacmans body which i think he''ll go to more in this fight as they exchange blows and slowly taking away pacmans stamina as the fight progresses!!!So if anyones gonna be hurting in the late rounds i think it will be Pacman!!!

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            #15
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            cotto's stamina (next to his porous defense) is his greatest liability. if cotto don't hurt pac to the body early or he doesn't outright stop pac before the 6th, he will get stopped late, especially if he starts backing up and/or sits on the ropes.

            everyone who backs up against pac or sits on the ropes against pac gets destroyed. morales beat pac by backing him up. jmm nearly beat pac by standing his ground and throwing combos.
            QFT

            Originally posted by isiahmike
            Well said i agree with your comment with cotto's powershots slowing pacman down especially when he hits pacmans body which i think he''ll go to more in this fight as they exchange blows and slowly taking away pacmans stamina as the fight progresses!!!So if anyones gonna be hurting in the late rounds i think it will be Pacman!!!
            I'm not signalling you out, i'm just using this as an example.

            Why do people think body shots will come easy? You know how close you have to be to get in a good body shot? Now look at Pacquiao's style, he never stays on the inside because of his constant in-and-out footwork. Cotto is in for hell, because quite frankly, it wont be easy getting to the inside and being able to stay there any longer than a second.

            Hatton's strong point was body punching, he couldn't even go to the inside. De La Hoya's game plan was to use the jab and use his size to control the fight, he couldn't even get anything off. So how can Cotto, a person who is roughly the same height and reach as Pacquiao, and has the same strong point as Hatton going to get to the inside? Or even get anything off?

            I see Pacquiao making Cotto look like he is fighting under water. I can't see Cotto getting KO'd but he wont do much of anything while he is alive and then when he gets to his lazy rounds.... Cotto will look like a really good amatuer going up against a real pro.

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            • rao007
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              #16
              I said no, but after voting I thought about it again. If Pacquiao is able to consistently tag Cotto until he's punch drunk then, yes, his stamina will fail him for a possbile TKO; however, if Pacquiao doesn't make Cotto respect his power like with the Zab Judah, Malignaggi, Jennings, I see this fight being a very tough one for Pacquiao.

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                #17
                Originally posted by F l i c k e r
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                I'm not signalling you out, i'm just using this as an example.

                Why do people think body shots will come easy? You know how close you have to be to get in a good body shot? Now look at Pacquiao's style, he never stays on the inside because of his constant in-and-out footwork. Cotto is in for hell, because quite frankly, it wont be easy getting to the inside and being able to stay there any longer than a second.

                Hatton's strong point was body punching, he couldn't even go to the inside. De La Hoya's game plan was to use the jab and use his size to control the fight, he couldn't even get anything off. So how can Cotto, a person who is roughly the same height and reach as Pacquiao, and has the same strong point as Hatton going to get to the inside? Or even get anything off?

                I see Pacquiao making Cotto look like he is fighting under water. I can't see Cotto getting KO'd but he wont do much of anything while he is alive and then when he gets to his lazy rounds.... Cotto will look like a really good amatuer going up against a real pro.
                its pretty simple. if you're determined to hit someone to the body, eventually you will hit them to the body. I dunno how much punishment cotto is willing to take to hit pac to the body, but if that is the gameplan and cotto sticks to it, he will hit pac to the body, maybe not consistantly, but cotto hits hard enough maybe not to stop pac, but to slow pac down.

                Originally posted by rao007
                I said no, but after voting I thought about it again. If Pacquiao is able to consistently tag Cotto until he's punch drunk then, yes, his stamina will fail him for a possbile TKO; however, if Pacquiao doesn't make Cotto respect his power like with the Zab Judah, Malignaggi, Jennings, I see this fight being a very tough one for Pacquiao.
                pac gotta make cotto respect his speed not his power. cotto won't get discouraged if he walks through punches he sees coming, but cotto will lose heart if he doesn't see the punches coming.

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                  #18
                  No way Pac puts the kind of pressure Margarito puts on any fighter and Margarito is way bigger than Pac.
                  As for Clottey, Clottey may not pressure a fighter as much as Margarito but he is a come forward fighter like Margarito.
                  Both Clottey and Margarito are not two out of the top three "most avoided fighters" for nothing(Paul Williams being the third).
                  Pac could not last with any of those three.
                  Simply put Pac is too small to place that much pressure on Cotto so Cotto will be fine. Besides Cotto only has to last 6 rounds because Pac will get Koed before 6.(left hook and right cross will do it)

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                  • rao007
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter

                    pac gotta make cotto respect his speed not his power. cotto won't get discouraged if he walks through punches he sees coming, but cotto will lose heart if he doesn't see the punches coming.
                    That's thing, it's the punches that you don't see which hurt. Speed is something Cotto has seen before but it's power that has had Cotto's stamina wane.

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                    • isiahmike
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by F l i c k e r
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                      I'm not signalling you out, i'm just using this as an example.

                      Why do people think body shots will come easy? You know how close you have to be to get in a good body shot? Now look at Pacquiao's style, he never stays on the inside because of his constant in-and-out footwork. Cotto is in for hell, because quite frankly, it wont be easy getting to the inside and being able to stay there any longer than a second.

                      Hatton's strong point was body punching, he couldn't even go to the inside. De La Hoya's game plan was to use the jab and use his size to control the fight, he couldn't even get anything off. So how can Cotto, a person who is roughly the same height and reach as Pacquiao, and has the same strong point as Hatton going to get to the inside? Or even get anything off?

                      I see Pacquiao making Cotto look like he is fighting under water. I can't see Cotto getting KO'd but he wont do much of anything while he is alive and then when he gets to his lazy rounds.... Cotto will look like a really good amatuer going up against a real pro.
                      Iam not saying they(bodyshots) will come easy but he'll ofcourse have his opportunities!!What i said is when they exchange with eachother is when Cotto will have the best chance to land his powerful body shots that will really hurt Pacman.Also Cotto is a way smarter and skillful fighter than Hatton!!As for De La Hoya u know why he lost the fight its self explanatory!!So dont underestimate Cotto's: speed,timing which he uses well with his jab that has power behind because its kind of a snappy type jab aswell as his counterablilty skills that to me will play big role in this fight!!!Peace!!!

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