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  • ny123
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    #11
    Originally posted by Ryn0
    But lets be honest, Quintana is no Hopkins. I think that the first Quintana fight caught Williams offguard and he thought it'd be an easy defence and to an extent I think Williams didn't put in the necassary work as he did in the 2nd fight.

    However, it did expose flaws and Hopkins even at this age could expose them as he's certainly better than Quintana.
    exactly my point was that if a limited decent boxer like quintana can beat williams imagine what a bigger stronger master boxer like b hop would do. im no fan of hopkins and would like to see williams kick his ass but thats not going to happen

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    • Jim Jeffries
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      #12
      Career suicide for Williams.

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        #13
        What gave Williams hell was Quintana's movement and counterpunching....which is what Hopkins does best. Not to mention Hopkins would actually have the size advantage. Still, at age 45 I have to wonder if the workrate might be too much.

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          #14
          45 people... 4 months... 45 years old... 45 year old legs, 45 year old stamina 45 year old punch output...

          6 foot 3 southpaw with an 82" reach who throws 100 punches a round... now maybe his power and outptu goes down a little.. but lets say this is a catch weight at 170.. where winky fought bernard...

          based on THAT bernard, and how winky did... id have to go with williams 100% realistically

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            #15
            [QUOTE=ree****yaluss;5881373]45 people... 4 months... 45 years old... 45 year old legs, 45 year old stamina 45 year old punch output...



            tell that to kelly pavlik

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              #16
              [QUOTE=ny123;5881381]
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              45 people... 4 months... 45 years old... 45 year old legs, 45 year old stamina 45 year old punch output...



              tell that to kelly pavlik
              paul williams isnt kelly pavlik

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                i knew this was coming your right that will be proven when pavlik kos williams. williams has beat winky who hadnt fought in 2 years and andy kolle i dont think he has shown that much at 160 for you to count out pavlik

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                  #18
                  [QUOTE=ree****yaluss;5881387]
                  Originally posted by ny123

                  paul williams isnt kelly pavlik
                  Perhaps, but did Pavlik even win a single round against Hopkins?

                  And you say Bernard has a 0% chance?

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                    #19
                    Williams didnt call Hopkins out for a reason.

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                      #20
                      I have to see if Williams can beat Pavlik before I even think about a fight between Williams and Hopkins. But I wouldn't in the least be suprised to see Bernard try to get a fight with Williams if he beats Pavlik.

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