Bruce Lee streetfight

[Sir_Jose]

People here complain about how there was no footage if even there was a fight. Well, I don't think people went around video taping fights in the 70s. And in the 60s - 70s Asians were not even looked at by the media or taken seriously by Americans...they were mostly ridiculed.

Now coming from someone who has done martial arts for around 16 years (shotokan karate, goju karate, kyukoshinkai karate, tae kwon do, ai ki do, wing chun, eagle claw kung fu, a little of jujitsu and yes boxing too) I of course know there were TONS of predacessors to Bruce Lee who impacted and influenced martial arts (Mas Oyama, Chojun Miyagi, Morihei Ueshiba, Jigaro Kano, etc) I will say that Bruce Lee was the one to really break the barriers in the mixing of martial arts and broke through traditional training methods and ideas...so now we have UFC, Pride, etc

HE TRAINED atheletes such as CHUCK NORRIS (9-time kick boxing champion), Kareem Abul Jabar (you know who he is) and others like James Garner & Steve McQueen. Unlike his later contemporaries Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Donnie Yen, etc. he actually trained in martial arts to further himself in the arts rather than strictly for performing. To be honest people like Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Donnie Yen are faster than him but would have lost to him in a fight easily.

But it would really be fascinating to watch him fight in the ligther weights against Pacquio, Morales, Barrera, etc. He was 5'7" 1/2 around 135lbs and an unnatural south paw. He also had ridiculous footwork as well as a quick jab and fundamentally was solid and a lot of his methods primarily worked on counter fighting. So he probably would've been a methodical coutner boxer with good power. Oh yeah, he trained in boxing too.

Taking away any credit he has to have furthered martial arts and fightin in general would be silly. That's like saying Dr. J didn't influence basketball just because Michael Jordan blow up 1,000 fold than he did.

You dont think people video taped fights in the 70's? Man it was the 1970's not 1870's.

Bruce Lee had about as much to do with the invention of MMA as I did. Fighters have always crossed trained just not as advanced as they do now.The term MMA didn't even come into play till the late 90's years after his death.

Nobody is arguing his influence on fighting, its his credentials as a fighter people question. Its pretty easy to question them considering he doesn't have any.

all those boxers you listed KO 1 Bruce Lee.

[Chups]

I normally prefer to argue with Jose because he can give it back well, but it looks like i have to agree with him again.

Any Bruce Lee fans thinks Jackie Chan is a unbeatable machine? IMO their exactly the same.

Jackie Chan was an acrobat/stuntman....he just makes flashy moves and funny movies. He is not with the same league as Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee was a Martial Arts teacher and Philosopher rather than a fighter.
The only thing common between them is that they are both actors.

[Chups]

all those boxers you listed KO 1 Bruce Lee.

Hahahaha first time I heard you pick Pacman in a fight...LOL. That makes you an anti-Bruce more than an anti-pac......

[ClydeErwinBarretto]

He started Wing Chun at age 13. That's pretty young. I am not sure how old he was when he first started acting but from 13-33 is a pretty long study in martial arts.

[Chups]

He started Wing Chun at age 13. That's pretty young. I am not sure how old he was when he first started acting but from 13-33 is a pretty long study in martial arts.

His whole family was in theatre...he had cameo roles when he was 5 yrs. old.

[ClydeErwinBarretto]

You dont think people video taped fights in the 70's? Man it was the 1970's not 1870's.

Bruce Lee had about as much to do with the invention of MMA as I did. Fighters have always crossed trained just not as advanced as they do now.The term MMA didn't even come into play till the late 90's years after his death.

Nobody is arguing his influence on fighting, its his credentials as a fighter people question. Its pretty easy to question them considering he doesn't have any.

all those boxers you listed KO 1 Bruce Lee.

So are you also going to question all of the other founders of other martial arts styles and schools because they did not compete in professional fights? or because their fights were not video taped?

[m00ks]

I normally prefer to argue with Jose because he can give it back well, but it looks like i have to agree with him again.

Any Bruce Lee fans thinks Jackie Chan is a unbeatable machine? IMO their exactly the same.

I like how jackie chan seems to be capable of climbing any wall, fence, tree or what not. Teh guy is a monkey but it's cool how gets up and over places. He uses a lot of everyday object s as well in his choreography.

[ClydeErwinBarretto]

Hahahaha first time I heard you pick Pacman in a fight...LOL. That makes you an anti-Bruce more than an anti-pac......

I'm actually PRO PAC...and PRO BRUCE...I said it would be fascinating to watch them fight. But just like all the what IFs on this board...no one will ever know.

[Chups]

Watch...Ima learn the 5 finger technique from PAI MEI, so I can prove you haters all wrong!!

[ClydeErwinBarretto]

You dont think people video taped fights in the 70's? Man it was the 1970's not 1870's.

Bruce Lee had about as much to do with the invention of MMA as I did. Fighters have always crossed trained just not as advanced as they do now.The term MMA didn't even come into play till the late 90's years after his death.

Nobody is arguing his influence on fighting, its his credentials as a fighter people question. Its pretty easy to question them considering he doesn't have any.

all those boxers you listed KO 1 Bruce Lee.

Oh yeah, that's why I've trained in three different "MMA" schools and yet for some odd reason they have the word JET KUNE DO and pictures of BRUCE LEE all over their schools as influence...mmmm? Maybe they just liked his movies or something.