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  • Originally posted by jose
    There is no amature or pro footage of Bruce Lee not because of a shortage of video cameras, but because he never actually had any fights. He never entered a single tournement.
    Jose, obviously you know very little about bruce lee or martial arts, besides boxing. Boxing is very effective in a standup fight but on the ground the pure boxer would lose quite easily, especially to someone skilled in something like jujitsu.

    As for bruce lee, he developed his own system of fighting. His skills and IQ (including fighting IQ) are well above any boxer--you can tell this by his philosophies on fighting. Also, many of his students became world champions. I have also seen footage of him training on the heavy bag (punching and kicking), training with his students including kareem abdul jabar and chuck norris. He's lightning fast. Believe me, his kick is faster than a boxer's punch. That's pretty amazing. And he did street fight in his younger days, I've seen one footage of it in a documentary and he owned!

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    • Oh, and ray mercer and francois botha lost in K-1 kickboxing fights.

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      • Originally posted by simeraksou
        Oh, and ray mercer and francois botha lost in K-1 kickboxing fights.
        First of all, a YOUNGER Botha got knocked the **** out by an over the hill Mike Tyson, and by Lennox Lewis. So why shouldn't a YOUNG K-1 champ be able to knock his, by this time, even older ass out? And Mercer's even more over the hill than Botha (if that's even possible). You name any boxer in his PRIME who's gotten knocked out in K-1, and MAYBE you have a point. But you can't.

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        • Originally posted by guru
          lol, tell that ray mercer, nbotha, briggs, vince phillips or any of the other boxers who have been KO'd

          look at this clip
          All those guys are WAY over the hill, and except for Phillips and maybe Mercer, never that good to begin with.
          When you put a walking fossil like Mercer up against a young K-1 champ in his prime, of course Mercer's gonna lose. Now put a young Mike Tyson in there against this guy, and you have a fair comparison.

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          • Originally posted by PunchDrunk
            All those guys are WAY over the hill, and except for Phillips and maybe Mercer, never that good to begin with.
            When you put a walking fossil like Mercer up against a young K-1 champ in his prime, of course Mercer's gonna lose. Now put a young Mike Tyson in there against this guy, and you have a fair comparison.

            poit is, in most cases, a boxer isn't to be successful out of their element just like a martial artist isn't going to win a boxing match... hopkins isn't going to beat tito ortiz in the UFC and ortiz isn't going to beat nard in a boxing match....

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            • Originally posted by simeraksou
              Jose, obviously you know very little about bruce lee or martial arts, besides boxing. Boxing is very effective in a standup fight but on the ground the pure boxer would lose quite easily, especially to someone skilled in something like jujitsu.

              As for bruce lee, he developed his own system of fighting. His skills and IQ (including fighting IQ) are well above any boxer--you can tell this by his philosophies on fighting. Also, many of his students became world champions. I have also seen footage of him training on the heavy bag (punching and kicking), training with his students including kareem abdul jabar and chuck norris. He's lightning fast. Believe me, his kick is faster than a boxer's punch. That's pretty amazing. And he did street fight in his younger days, I've seen one footage of it in a documentary and he owned!
              I think it's amazing how people say that bruce was not a great fighter because he didn't eneter tournaments. well he didn't. the reason? because tournaments had rules and he trained to fight for life and not for points. he trained the biggest american martial arts champions at that time (chuck norris, joe lewis, and mike stone)...and all of them valued his knowledge and skills. i actually got to talk to chuck and i asked him if bruce was really as good as people say he was...he smiled and said bruce was a master at changing his tempo and controlling distance and that it was aggrivating trying to hit him while being so discouraged at the same time as bruce would 'stop-hit' any attach they had.

              now think about this. a boxer has two weapons his right fist and left fist. a martial artist has those plus his knees, elbows, head, finger (eye-jab), and legs...plus grappling knowledge (if he is well rounded). ever see a boxer get taken to the ground? it's like seeing a fish flap around out of water...literally. did bruce know how to grapple? he learned form one of the best gene la belle...and any 'real' fighter will tell you that gene was great in his day.

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              • was bruce lee the one who knocked that guy down with the punch one inch away from his chest...? i know i saw a video, and he puts his fist like one inch away from the guys chest, hits him, and the guy falls back, and i think he did the same with a sumo wrestler...

                i know the videos somewhere...

                but anyway, yeah bruce lees real, obviously dude has skills if youve seen his movies, but the fact that theres no footage of him only adds to his legend. so who knows if he was as good as the legend says...

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                • Originally posted by Soko
                  Tyson in his prime vs Bruce Lee on the street Im going with Mike.. Mike hits that little nip barefisted and breaks everybone in his face.. Dude I bet that redneck on here who punched the watermelon would KO Bruce Lee too..
                  No wonder his banned LOL

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                  • Originally posted by PapiShasho
                    but anyway, yeah bruce lees real, obviously dude has skills if youve seen his movies, but the fact that theres no footage of him only adds to his legend. so who knows if he was as good as the legend says...
                    there's training footage of him sparring full contact...as far as real fights...no one carries a camcorder around. during filming of enter the dragon lee was jumped several times to 'test' him. he came out victorious everytime...and these were witnessed by the producers, director, extras, actors, etc. that were on the set that day.

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                    • Originally posted by jose
                      Martial Arts are a joke. A world class boxewr would destroy and Martial Artist with ease. All that fancy ****...guess what? It dont work in the real world.
                      Jeezus talk about blind...A world class Boxer would "destroy" a world class martial artist "with ease"?

                      For christ's sake, why don't you just say that you hate Martial Arts because they were too complicated for you to learn? LMFAO

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