Who is the most complete boxer ever?

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  • Dynamite Kid
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    THE PLATANO MAN

    What is it Leonard did not have for you ?

    He could fight inside, he could Box from range, he had great footwork, he had great coordination of hand and foot.

    He had the heart of a lion and pulled fights out of the fire because of his huge heart, infact i think his heart is the main reason why he was able to adapt in his biggest fights.

    He had excellent power to, he was tough, he was a combination puncher, he was one of the best finishers in the game ever!!!

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #32
      Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
      Mayweather has never beaten an elite fighter in their prime and he had life and death with J L Castillo whom i dont rate as highly as others.

      Whitaker is my second choice but Whitaker was not as good at fighting from long range as he was inside, and he did not have the power like a Leonard.

      Hopkins is susceptible to quick fighters imo, it just so happens that his style is conducive to fight longer into his career making it seem like he is much better than he is. His best wins have been against smaller men, i respect Hopkins but thats basically true. Hopkins is great dont get me wrong.
      Complete, fight both inside/ out, against the ropes, going backwards, defense, counter punching, accuracy, speed, footwork. SRL lacked defense.

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      • Dynamite Kid
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        #33
        Originally posted by THE PLATANO MAN
        Complete, fight both inside/ out, against the ropes, going backwards, defense, counter punching, accuracy, speed, footwork. SRL lacked defense.
        Well then we are talking about two different criteria.

        Physically Leonard had everything, but you are right maybe he had technical deficiencies in defence, although having said that his footwork was exceptional!

        You seem to be using your examples of fighters that were complete technically but i dont think that necessarily translates to complete fighter. Based on technical skill compiled with physical gifts Leonard has more than all of those guys imo.
        Last edited by Dynamite Kid; 08-07-2009, 07:59 PM.

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          #34
          Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Pernell Whitaker, Floyd Mayweather

          smart versatile fighters who could do it all

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          • Doctor_Tenma
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            #35
            As for B-Hop having faced smaller opponents, SRL did the same, he was damn HUGE WW.

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            • Dynamite Kid
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              #36
              Originally posted by THE PLATANO MAN
              As for B-Hop having faced smaller opponents, SRL did the same, he was damn HUGE WW.
              Hopkins was a huge!! MW which only exasperates the point when you consider DLH once fought at LW.

              Tommy Hearns was a big 147 lbs to.

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                #37
                Originally posted by eubank1
                Not who is the most explosive or undefeated but who has the most boxing skills of all the fighters out there! he doesnt have to have an umblemished record just a great boxer!
                Ray Robinson

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                • Doctor_Tenma
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                  Hopkins was a huge!! MW which only exasperates the point when you consider DLH once fought at LW.

                  Tommy Hearns was a big 147 lbs to.
                  Yeah but people ignore the fact that B-Hop faced Mercado, Johnson, Echols, Eastmen, Tarver, Taylor, Calzaghe...did size really matter against all the opponents I've just mentioned. Do people even consider his win against DLH any good? But they'd love to bring it up when saying B-Hop faced smaller opponents.

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                  • TredKiller
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                    #39
                    Hagler.............

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                    • Dynamite Kid
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by THE PLATANO MAN
                      Yeah but people ignore the fact that B-Hop faced Mercado, Johnson, Echols, Eastmen, Tarver, Taylor, Calzaghe...did size really matter against all the opponents I've just mentioned. Do people even consider his win against DLH any good? But they'd love to bring it up when saying B-Hop faced smaller opponents.
                      THE PLATANO MAN i dont mean to get on Nard's case and i agree with what your saying, its not that they are not good wins because i believe they are fantastic wins regardless, but when you put him along side other great fighters i think you have to bring it into the equation.

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