Pavlik vs. Williams. Time to come clean!

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  • Benncollinsaad
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    #11
    Either a KO for Pavlik or a points win for Williams. I doubt Pavlik can outbox Williams. 'tis not totally incomprehensible either.

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    • boxasmash
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      #12
      Pavlik TKO mid to late rounds.

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      • TheCheetah
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        #13
        Too many punches from Williams. I see Paul winning by KO or by Decision.

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        • BattlingNelson
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          #14
          Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
          I think William's chin will hold up ok. He took bombs from Quintana and Plasterito for 12 rounds (Yes I know Pavlik hits harder).... He also took some very solid shots against Phillips and Winky and just wanted to fight more.

          I think Pavlik is going to be confused in this fight.... very confused.
          Fighting a retired 37 year old and the prime MW champion is two very different things. Williams won't last the distance.

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          • boxasmash
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            #15
            Williams is no Hopkins, he doesn't have the footspeed, angles or even (gasp!!) reflexes Hopkins has even at 44. If you stand and trade with Pavlik and you're not a legit 160 lber, you will lose. Pavlik punches straighter, harder, has a better jab and accuracy than Williams add to that Williams' normal height, weight and stamina will be cancelled out completely and for the last part mostly. It's hard throwing 1000 punches against someone who hurts you every time you get hit.

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            • THE REED
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              #16
              I got a million on williams

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              • Gorgeous George
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                #17
                its going to be the same as taylor and froch except with a more devistating ko for pavlik..

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                • Burner
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by boxasmash
                  Williams is no Hopkins, he doesn't have the footspeed, angles or even (gasp!!) reflexes Hopkins has even at 44. If you stand and trade with Pavlik and you're not a legit 160 lber, you will lose. Pavlik punches straighter, harder, has a better jab and accuracy than Williams add to that Williams' normal height, weight and stamina will be cancelled out completely and for the last part mostly. It's hard throwing 1000 punches against someone who hurts you every time you get hit.
                  Did Kelly hurt that Mexican bum every time he hit him......Stop acting like Pavlik is this vicous power puncher.,...hes not that same guy anymore....he looked like ass aginst Rubio....and theres a reason his team wanted him to fight Mora and Martinez because theyre not confident in his ability..and theres a reason he wanted a rematch clause....Pavlik and his team know its time to pass the torch.

                  Williams is faster then Hopkins...throws more then Hopkins....has a longer reach and better jab then Hops...and throws from more angles then Hpkins...Pavlik needs room to operate..Williams will give him none and will be all over his ass...from the opening bell.

                  Pavlik has never fought a guy who literally wont stop throwing.......Hes going to look confused as **** come fight night...the faster....better fighter will win and thats Paul.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                    Fighting a retired 37 year old and the prime MW champion is two very different things. Williams won't last the distance.
                    Are you giving odds.....

                    Lets bet.

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                    • boxasmash
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Burner, ATG
                      Did Kelly hurt that Mexican bum every time he hit him......Stop acting like Pavlik is this vicous power puncher.,...hes not that same guy anymore....he looked like ass aginst Rubio....and theres a reason his team wanted him to fight Mora and Martinez because theyre not confident in his ability..and theres a reason he wanted a rematch clause....Pavlik and his team know its time to pass the torch.

                      Williams is faster then Hopkins...throws more then Hopkins....has a longer reach and better jab then Hops...and throws from more angles then Hpkins...Pavlik needs room to operate..Williams will give him none and will be all over his ass...from the opening bell.

                      Pavlik has never fought a guy who literally wont stop throwing.......Hes going to look confused as **** come fight night...the faster....better fighter will win and thats Paul.
                      I don't think Williams is faster than Hopkins actually at least his single punches. He throws more yes.. More opportunities for Pavlik to hit him back the, correct? More angles? Not at all.

                      Pavlik may have never fought someone like Williams but it's the same for Williams too, he has never fought someone as big, powerful and as hard hitting as Pavlik. There's some things you can prepare for and fighting a power puncher for the first time isn't one of them.

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