Plaster of Paris gets hard Correct??

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  • Dynamite Kid
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    #41
    What exactly are we trying to establish here ?

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    • Mr. Fantastic
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      #42
      Originally posted by DannyChaos
      MAB and Trinidad were never caught with plaster.

      When did MAB and Trinidad get suspended for loading their gloves? When did they get caught?

      Trinidad was busted for excessive gauze and tape. Nothing more and nothing less.
      It was still illegal the way he did it.

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      • Nuurzhaelan
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        #43
        Originally posted by chicano79us
        What was your opinion on Resto saying when he had Plaster of Paris on his hands and he could barely move them??
        In what regard? I think he should remain banned from boxing. I am also big on redemption if genuine contrition and remorse can be established. To me he seemed anguished and penitent.

        If you are referring to the paris he had on his hands my opinion is that the glove would have reinforced it. I have never had my hands wrapped with plaster of paris, but I am not dodging the question, I just need more clarity. Was his account of it accurate? Is that your question?

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        • oc9979
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          #44
          ok i know where you going with this.
          Based on the reports made about margarito. He had a "inserts" of hard gauze that fell off his wrap. So I'm thinking that his wrap did not have plaster but he had "inserts" of plaster inside his wrap. which it meant that he could open and closed his hands without any problem.
          If his wrap was dipped in plaster he would not be able to open his hand. but you have to remember that it was "insert"

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          • BoxingChaos
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            #45
            Originally posted by chicano79us
            And Casts aren't flexible right?? When you have your cast on you can't move anything its on.
            Dude you are not going to win an argument based on Resto saying he could not open or close his hands because he could. He said not well but he never said it was impossible. Why don't you get some wraps, get a small piece of gauze or wrapping, lace it with plaster, do a youtube investigation or send the shiet to myth busters. You are asking the wrong people. Why not email margacheater or c****tillo and ask him, he is the expert, he is the one who was caught. We are not the cheating experts so we don't have the formula. Stop trying to defend these guilty mofo's.

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            • jazluvr
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              #46
              I watched a double match-up fight last night, and i made it a point to watch carefully wheather or not the boxers could extend ALL their fingers after the gloves were off. Guess what? They Could. All 4 of them.

              All 4 boxers were able to extend all their fingers straight out. I remember a post here with a video saying watch Tony's fingers, that he couldn't open his hands. I did see that he was only able to straighten only his index finger to indicate he's #1.

              My only conclusion tho this is that if margo used it, ( and I'm convinced they did) Is that that according to the old blood stain inside the wrap, this isn't the first time he's used them. I suspect they have applied it in such a manner as to be able to allow the index finger to be extended. Cuts down on su****ion and also, in that video i notices all his other fingers, (both hands were NOT extended at any time. plus the wraps seemd to be protruding quite a bit. Maybe a bit more than normal...not sure.
              Last edited by jazluvr; 08-05-2009, 06:12 PM.

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              • oc9979
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                #47
                the keywords was inserts

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                • Mr. Fantastic
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Nuurzhaelan
                  In what regard? I think he should remain banned from boxing. I am also big on redemption if genuine contrition and remorse can be established. To me he seemed anguished and penitent.

                  If you are referring to the paris he had on his hands my opinion is that the glove would have reinforced it. I have never had my hands wrapped with plaster of paris, but I am not dodging the question, I just need more clarity. Was his account of it accurate? Is that your question?
                  Well what Resto did was ****ed up, but I don't think he completely responsible for Collins' death.

                  Yea but remember, there was no padding on the gloves. I'm not sure, but I do believe so that he could barely move his hands with it on.

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                  • oc9979
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                    #49
                    they should do a DNA test on the wraps. See what is the "blood stain" and who is it?

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                    • Mr. Fantastic
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by oc9979
                      ok i know where you going with this.
                      Based on the reports made about margarito. He had a "inserts" of hard gauze that fell off his wrap. So I'm thinking that his wrap did not have plaster but he had "inserts" of plaster inside his wrap. which it meant that he could open and closed his hands without any problem.
                      If his wrap was dipped in plaster he would not be able to open his hand. but you have to remember that it was "insert"
                      Inserts or not it would still cause problems with moving his hands. Think about it.

                      Besides, all I was asking was something simple. Does Plaster get hard..yes or no...and you guys start coming up with agendas lol.

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