Honestly, is there anyone in here who doesn't see SRR as the GOAT?

[TredKiller]

some people in here actually dissin ray robinson, shameful

pep his resume real quick:

Pete Lello (48-8)
Sammy Angott 2x (60-15-5)
Maxie Shapiro (50-6-2)
Marty Servo (42-0)
Jake LaMotta 5x
Fritzie Zivic (111-20-5)
George Costner (36-5-2)
Jose Basora (54-9)
Tommy Bell
Jimmy Doyle (43-6)
Bernard Docusen (47-2)
Kid Gavilan
Ray Barnes
Charley Fusari
Bobo Olson (41-3)
Robert Villemain
Randy Turpin
Rocky Graziano
Gene Fullmer
Carmen Basilio

accomplishments: won the MW title 5 times, all in his mid to late 30's, WW champ.

in his prime, knowone could beat him, and he was really the first guy that incorporated danceing and lateral movment in boxing.

[DrewWoodside]

valero?

doubt it.

he'd have to fight someone competent before he gets to 44.

I can't name all the japanese ****stars Valero knocked out but lets be realistic.. They couldn't all have been David Diazes.

[goldenglove2]

Seriously, how is this even a question?

*******s?

Got anything?

I don't think that one fighter can be considered the greatest of all time ever. But certainly one can be put in a category of one of the best ever, based on resume, skill and accomplishments.. SRR is one of the greatest ever to lace them up.

[Danny Gunz]

I dont think he is the Greatest, he basicaly just has an inflated record... hes good but im sure he probably fought 10 fights against fighters worse then michael jennings before he fought one good fighter

[Bogler]

I can't name all the japanese ****stars Valero knocked out but lets be realistic.. They couldn't all have been David Diazes.

Triple D would probably have beaten most on Valero's resume

[WhoreUs]

I can't name all the japanese ****stars Valero knocked out but lets be realistic.. They couldn't all have been David Diazes.

david diaz would beat valero.

[DrewWoodside]

I don't think that one fighter can be considered the greatest of all time ever. But certainly one can be put in a category of one of the best ever, based on resume, skill and accomplishments.. SRR is one of the greatest ever to lace them up.

I definitely think he's one of the best ever, and possibly the greatest of all time. But like many posters, I'd be lying if I said I know EXACTLy why he's the greatest ever and that it's foolish to suggest anyone else can compete for the top spot.

[goldenglove2]

I dont think he is the Greatest, he basicaly just has an inflated record... hes good but im sure he probably fought 10 fights against fighters worse then michael jennings before he fought one good fighter

so its better to fight one Michael Jenning before a good fighter or ten Michael Jennings before a good fighter? What's more impressive?... and how can you be sure they were worse then Michael Jennings?

[WhoreUs]

Triple D would probably have beaten most on Valero's resume

most?

all.


let's look at valero's top 5 wins.

1. pitalua. diaz would beat him.
2. mosquera. he knocked valero on his ass , i doubt he could do that to david.
3. the chef at benihana. even money fight.
4. the guy who did 6 scenes with maria ozawa. i like david's chances.
5. the cab driver in tokyo. easy money for david.

[DrewWoodside]

most?

all.


let's look at valero's top 5 wins.

1. pitalua. diaz would beat him.
2. mosquera. he knocked valero on his ass , i doubt he could do that to david.
3. the chef at benihana. even money fight.
4. the guy who did 6 scenes with maria ozawa. i like david's chances.
5. the cab driver in tokyo. easy money for david.

6. The stud who banged Miko Lee in the 2.
7. The guy running the noodle cart on 42nd and broadway.