Cotto: "If I cant have the belt then you cant have it either"

**rob6465** · 07-30-2009, 03:10 PM

I think because it's a welterweight fight that if pacman wants to weigh-in at 141 and cotto at 147, let it be. As long as it is 141-147.

**nystate0fm1nd** · 07-30-2009, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by shadeyfizzle

Now before some ******s start flaming the thread I am against the fight being at 145lbs. I think it's pointless. But Cotto should really cut it out with this "If I cant keep the belt then I wont let you have it either" type ish that he's been on.

145 or 147 really makes no difference. If the fight is at 147 Cotto would weigh in officially at 146 and rehydrate to 160. If the fight is at 145 he can still choose to come in at 146 or even at 145 he would still have no problem making the weight comfortably and still rehydrate to 160. So what difference would it make whether it be 145 or 147?? I just wish either Pacquiao or Cotto or both stop being divas and we the fans all shut the **** up and quit bitchin about the weight or the title being on the line because regardless of your perspective everyone is really saying the same **** and we'd all like to come to the same conclusion anyway.

FOR REAL!!??! Holy ****, I didn't know that a fighter can choose to come in at a different weight than what was agreed upon and face no penalties. How do YOU know he won't have a problem making the weight comfortably? Have you ever tried to make weight before? I think not. He's going to have to dry himself out to make 145. Can he do it? I think so. Will it affect him? Hopefully not. He can rehydrate after the weigh in, but that won't stop him from being weakened from the weight loss. Ask DLH about that.

**nystate0fm1nd** · 07-30-2009, 03:17 PM

Oh, by the way. If Cotto didn't make weight, it would mean he most likely dried himself out and still couldn't make it. On top of that, he will be STRIPPED of his title (if it's on the line) and will face a ****load of money in penalties. Just FYI. That's what happens when you fail to make weight.

**shadeyfizzle** · 07-30-2009, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by rob6465

I think because it's a welterweight fight that if pacman wants to weigh-in at 141 and cotto at 147, let it be. As long as it is 141-147.

I understand that. But why all the fuss about it?? 145 would be nothing more than a formality and peace of mind for the Pacquiao team. In the end it's still a full on welterweight fight without anyone being weight drained. I think the catchweight is pointless because the 2lbs are not going to do a damn thing to Cotto but if the fight ends up at 145 with the title on line im not gonna ***** about it either because of the exact same reasons. The 2lbs arent gonna do a damn thing to Cotto and in the end it'll still be a full on welterweight fight.

**Bogler** · 07-30-2009, 03:19 PM

the question is, IF cotto loses the fight w/o the belt on the line, would that belt still have any meaning to him?

**shadeyfizzle** · 07-30-2009, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by nystate0fm1nd

FOR REAL!!??! Holy ****, I didn't know that a fighter can choose to come in at a different weight than what was agreed upon and face no penalties. How do YOU know he won't have a problem making the weight comfortably? Have you ever tried to make weight before? I think not. He's going to have to dry himself out to make 145. Can he do it? I think so. Will it affect him? Hopefully not. He can rehydrate after the weigh in, but that won't stop him from being weakened from the weight loss. Ask DLH about that.

Originally posted by nystate0fm1nd

Oh, by the way. If Cotto didn't make weight, it would mean he most likely dried himself out and still couldn't make it. On top of that, he will be STRIPPED of his title (if it's on the line) and will face a ****load of money in penalties. Just FYI. That's what happens when you fail to make weight.

I've competed in the amateur circuit in california in both boxing and wrestling so stfu. Cotto will not have to dry himself out to make 145. He looked very comfortable weighing in at 146 vs Clottey. An extra hour in the sauna wont hurt him at all.

During this whole negotiation period Cotto's team has been willing to make concessions to put Cotto in better position to win the fight. What difference will it make to make the fight at 147 taking less money. Or keeping the fight at 145 making more money, and paying a million of it to weigh in 1lb more officially. the same weight he would weigh had it been at 147.

And if the belt is on the line at 145lbs and he weighs in as much as 147 he might have to pay fees to the Pacquiao team for goin over the agreed weight but he WILL NOT be stripped and the fight would still take place and the belt would still be on the line because it's still within the welterweight limit.

**JmH Reborn** · 07-30-2009, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by shadeyfizzle

I've competed in the amateur circuit in california in both boxing and wrestling so stfu. Cotto will not have to dry himself out to make 145. He looked very comfortable weighing in at 146 vs Clottey. An extra hour in the sauna wont hurt him at all.

During this whole negotiation period Cotto's team has been willing to make concessions to put Cotto in better position to win the fight. What difference will it make to make the fight at 147 taking less money. Or keeping the fight at 145 making more money, and paying a million of it to weigh in 1lb more officially. the same weight he would weigh had it been at 147.

And if the belt is on the line at 145lbs and he weighs in as much as 147 he might have to pay fees to the Pacquiao team for goin over the agreed weight but he WILL NOT be stripped and the fight would still take place and the belt would still be on the line because it's still within the welterweight limit.

The point is to make money, not lose it.

This is his highest pay day ever and you want him to pay the ridiculous fee for every pound over?

I think DLH was charged from 3-5 million per pound and you want Cotto to pay 6-10 million of his guaranteed 12 million in weight overage fees, plus another 400,000 in sanctioning fees?

**shadeyfizzle** · 07-30-2009, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by JmH Reborn

The point is to make money, not lose it.

This is his highest pay day ever and you want him to pay the ridiculous fee for every pound over?

I think DLH was charged from 3-5 million per pound and you want Cotto to pay 6-10 million of his guaranteed 12 million in weight overage fees, plus another 400,000 in sanctioning fees?

Fee for Cotto would be 1mil per pound over. They could restructure the contract of the fight to be at 147 but Cotto would end up taking less money. In the end it all equates to the same **** does it not?

**Luis12** · 07-30-2009, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by shadeyfizzle

Now before some ******s start flaming the thread I am against the fight being at 145lbs. I think it's pointless. But Cotto should really cut it out with this "If I cant keep the belt then I wont let you have it either" type ish that he's been on.

145 or 147 really makes no difference. If the fight is at 147 Cotto would weigh in officially at 146 and rehydrate to 160. If the fight is at 145 he can still choose to come in at 146 or even at 145 he would still have no problem making the weight comfortably and still rehydrate to 160. So what difference would it make whether it be 145 or 147?? I just wish either Pacquiao or Cotto or both stop being divas and we the fans all shut the **** up and quit bitchin about the weight or the title being on the line because regardless of your perspective everyone is really saying the same **** and we'd all like to come to the same conclusion anyway.

WW tittle fight means that the champ or challenger can weight 141-147.

Tittle fights means 3% to the Organization

3% means 300-400K FROM COTTO'S PURSE- why don't manny pay for it.

Cotto's giving manny 2 pounds, the bigger share and now the tittle??

Arum should pay Cotto more and Manny can have the belt. Anyway he's gonna get KO

btw....LMAO at the 160

Cotto: "If I cant have the belt then you cant have it either"