ESPN's Dan Rafael on Antonio Margarito situation

[Luis12]

Ultimately the commission ruled against Capetillo. Commission member Christopher Giza, M.D. who entered the motions against both men, cited in regards to Capetillo “I can understand making a mistake [with one hand], but how do you make the same mistake twice?”

Capetillo put (2) not one block gauze by mistake??

“Ultimately,” he said, “the athlete is responsible for his team, his equipment, and what he puts in his body. You and [Capetillo] worked together for 11 years. You traveled the world together, Capetillo says he has wrapped your hands the same way every time. What other conclusion can we make?”

A fighter with more than 15 years in boxing that doesn't know how to wraps hands?? yeah right

[larry smith]

Margacheato is a ****.ing CHEAT..

i hope he gets banned for life !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BoxingChaos]

Like I told the other dude, I know you would hit it if she were to pop up in front of you looking like the AV.

At the 2:00 Minute mark.

[ VERSE 3 ]
I went up to this girl, she said, Hi, my name is Sheena
I thought she'd be good to go with a little Funky Cold Medina
She said, I'd like a drink, I said, Ehm - ok, I'll go get it
Then a couple sips she cold licked her lips, and I knew that she was with it
So I took her to my crib, and everything went well as planned
But when she got undressed, it was a big old mess, Sheena was a man
So I threw him out, I don't fool around with no Oscar Meyer wiener
You must be sure that the girl is pure for the Funky Cold Medina

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

And bring me proof that Margs cheated in the Cotto fight then.

See like Mosley, Tito got away with a slap to the hand.

You don't own ****.

Nuthugger?? Look who's talking. You're the one that nuthugs a boxer based on his flag. PR ring a bell??

When did I mentioned in this thread that he Cheated in the Cotto fight.

See How idiotic you can be.

When did Tito even got formally accused, even RJJ said Tito didnt do anything wrong, even Naz and Hopkins camp said it was to get into titos head.


And yes I believe he cheated in the Cotto fight.

This is obviously not official but with half a brain and common sense youll see the thruth.

http://www.hbo.com/boxing/events/200...m_profile.html I just read this I know its long but check it out it has more details

****m Richardson's account of the evening, however, contradicts that assertion and also calls into question that of Espinoza. As Richardson tells the story, when he entered Margarito's dressing room, the "pads" had been prepared (the thick gauze wrapping that goes over the knuckles), but the wrapping process had not yet begun. They were just beginning to work on Margarito's right hand when Richardson arrived.

"They started putting tape on the wrist and the thumb on the right hand," Richardson said, "and they were putting too much tape directly onto the skin. No gauze, just putting tape directly onto the skin on the wrist of the right hand."

Taping directly to the skin is against the rules, so Richardson protested. When the Commission representative who was present said that he was fine with what they were doing, Richardson asked that Dean Lohuis, the Commission's chief athletic inspector, be brought into the room. He says Lohuis agreed that there was too much tape being applied directly to Margarito's skin and had them rewrap it. It took them two more tries to appease both Richardson and Lohuis. The real shocker, however, occurred when they moved on to the fighter's left hand.

"When he started on the left hand," Richardson says, "I asked to feel the cushion (the pad) before he put it on the knuckle. I asked the deputy from the Commission, 'Did you squeeze the cushion on the right hand?' And he said no. So Margarito put the right hand up and said, 'Go ahead you can feel it,' and I said, 'No, let me squeeze this cushion before he puts it on the left hand.'"

"So when I squeezed the cushion, it was brick hard. I said, 'This is not right.' I asked the deputy to feel it, so he felt it, and he said, 'It feels all right to me.' I said, 'No, that thing is too hard.' So I asked the commissioner (Lohuis) to feel it, and he said, 'Yeah, that does feel hard.' So he peeled it back, and when he peeled it back, a square block of old wet gauze fell out that was covered with plaster. And it had an old dried-up blood stain on it."

At this point, Richardson says, it was almost time for Margarito to make his walk to the ring, and the trainer met with resistance from Margarito's people and also from the Commission's representatives about unwrapping and inspecting the pad on the already wrapped right hand.

"I asked them to unwrap the right hand," Richardson told me, "because I thought they had checked the pad on the right hand. But they were arguing about that. So I said, 'Listen, if he fights the fight and we find something in it, what would happen then?' And the commissioner said, 'You're right - unwrap the right hand.'"

When they did, a block of gauze was discovered in the right-hand pad similar to the one that had fallen out of the left. Initially, Richardson seized the evidence himself.

"I took the two pieces, and I told the commissioner that I wasn't giving them back to [Margarito's people]. I said, 'I'm only giving these to Shane's lawyer.' So I took the two pieces when we went to Shane's room to wrap Shane's hands. The lawyer came over, and the commissioner came with us, and Shane's doctor [Robert Olvera] was there. The doctor scratched one of the pieces, and it chalked up. He said, 'This is the same plaster we use to make casts in the hospital.'"

At that point, Richardson says he took the pieces back from Olvera and then surrendered the evidence to Lohuis for investigation by the Commission. The pieces were placed in a box, which was sealed with tape and signed by Mosley's lawyer, Judd Burstein - but not before Richardson ordered several people with camera-phones to snap photos of the two blocks of gauze.

When I asked Richardson if he thought that Margarito would have gained an edge against Mosley if the pads had been allowed to stand as they were, he laughed. "With the kind of condition we had Shane in," he said, "I figure if Margarito had a stick in his hand he wouldn't have beaten Shane that night."

"But it definitely would have given him an advantage, an advantage to the point of danger. And, look, I don't know for sure that Margarito knew what was in the pads. But I know for a fact that the trainer had to know. Cause he prepared the pads, so I know he knew what was in them."

It's damning account of the incident, and one wonders if and when Margarito or his handlers are going to counter it with a detailed one of their own. They are of course innocent until proven guilty by the Commission, and it's likely that they are saying as little as possible to protect themselves in the investigation. But in the absence of a thorough account from Margarito, the court of public opinion has run rampant with speculation on countless websites and blogs.

Meanwhile, the explanations offered by Margarito's camp thus far have been less than satisfying. Both Richardson and Mosley's doctor are on record as saying that the gauze blocks that came out of Margarito's pads were hard and "plaster-like," and the CSAC has deemed them "foreign substances" worthy of a temporary suspension, all calling into doubt the fighter's recent claim that this is only a matter of excess tape.

As for the claim by Margarito's co-manager, Francisco Espinoza, that it was gauze that had grown humid and started to harden of its own accord, I ran that explanation past HBO commentator and Hall-of-Fame trainer, Emanuel Steward. He didn't find it plausible in the least. As proof of his point, he mentioned that he was about to auction off the hand-wraps that Lennox Lewis used in his fights with Mike Tyson and Hasim Rahman. For more than six years, Steward has kept them in a Ziploc bag. If damp gauze ever were inclined to harden over time, one would expect that those wraps would be stiff as boards by now.

"But that material," Steward told me, "is still soft."

Naz Interview with Pedro Fernandez.


Margaritos interview on ESPN. Listen how he quickly sounds nervous as hell and he tries to throw capetillo under the bus.

This one is of Margaritos corner in the Cotto fight. Listen how his corner man ask Margarito how is the punch, and quickly Capetillo gives him the Deer on headlights look, and told the oother corner man, What punch? What are you talking about? Then Margaritos other corner man gives him water and Capetillo tells him dont get overconfident and Margarito says and will not get overconfident I know. This was at the end of round 4.

This 1 is at the end of round 9 and listen how Capetillo tells him "at this point your punches should be solid punches, but dont get overconfident"

Look at this pictures.

This first 1 is after the Torres fight

This one is of Cotto after Margarito

Look at the damage Margarito did from rounds 9-11. I mean Torres is a harder puncher at the weight than Margarito, he landed way more on Cotto, he landed way more harder punches during more rounds than Magarito, and he didnt came close to half damage Margarito did to Cotto.

Now look at Billy Colins JR. after his fight with RestoLooks familiar?

Just some proofs that, with Common sense you will see margarito cheated, but common sense is something you dont know what it is!!!!!

[Luis12]

Tony was undertrained and unmotivated.

Bad night.

Thats all.

Mosley's the proven cheater here.
He's the piece of **** glorified journeyman.

I can't wait to read his next press release beggin for people to fight him...

agreed and his power was in mosley's locker room!!!!

lol

[Mr. Fantastic]

At the 2:00 Minute mark.

[ VERSE 3 ]
I went up to this girl, she said, Hi, my name is Sheena
I thought she'd be good to go with a little Funky Cold Medina
She said, I'd like a drink, I said, Ehm - ok, I'll go get it
Then a couple sips she cold licked her lips, and I knew that she was with it
So I took her to my crib, and everything went well as planned
But when she got undressed, it was a big old mess, Sheena was a man
So I threw him out, I don't fool around with no Oscar Meyer wiener
You must be sure that the girl is pure for the Funky Cold Medina

Sorry but Somaya Reece isn't Sheena. Though I kinda think you want it to.

[Ravishing]

He doesn't see Capetillo as a friend. He sees him as a father, big difference.

So if Margarito never steps foot inside a ring on US soil and never gets the opportunity to make Millions fighting, it would be forgivable because Capetillo's a "father figure"? LOL...please, Margarito's a grown man dude...not 12 years old.

[ßringer]

I'm sure you'd like to take it in the ass any day of the week too.

Don't forget Tony was fighting grown men at 15.

He didn't have daddy holding his sack the whole way.

Aren't you late for a Team Jurassic circle jerk ******?

What the hell does Jack Mosley have to do with any of this?

Your inability to stay on point in this debate, and the fact that you keep resorting to ******ed insults that do not even apply to me is staggering.

[Mr. Fantastic]

When did I mentioned in this thread that he Cheated in the Cotto fight.

See How idiotic you can be.

When did Tito even got formally accused, even RJJ said Tito didnt do anything wrong, even Naz and Hopkins camp said it was to get into titos head.


And yes I believe he cheated in the Cotto fight.

This is obviously not official but with half a brain and common sense youll see the thruth.

http://www.hbo.com/boxing/events/200...m_profile.html I just read this I know its long but check it out it has more details

****m Richardson's account of the evening, however, contradicts that assertion and also calls into question that of Espinoza. As Richardson tells the story, when he entered Margarito's dressing room, the "pads" had been prepared (the thick gauze wrapping that goes over the knuckles), but the wrapping process had not yet begun. They were just beginning to work on Margarito's right hand when Richardson arrived.

"They started putting tape on the wrist and the thumb on the right hand," Richardson said, "and they were putting too much tape directly onto the skin. No gauze, just putting tape directly onto the skin on the wrist of the right hand."

Taping directly to the skin is against the rules, so Richardson protested. When the Commission representative who was present said that he was fine with what they were doing, Richardson asked that Dean Lohuis, the Commission's chief athletic inspector, be brought into the room. He says Lohuis agreed that there was too much tape being applied directly to Margarito's skin and had them rewrap it. It took them two more tries to appease both Richardson and Lohuis. The real shocker, however, occurred when they moved on to the fighter's left hand.

"When he started on the left hand," Richardson says, "I asked to feel the cushion (the pad) before he put it on the knuckle. I asked the deputy from the Commission, 'Did you squeeze the cushion on the right hand?' And he said no. So Margarito put the right hand up and said, 'Go ahead you can feel it,' and I said, 'No, let me squeeze this cushion before he puts it on the left hand.'"

"So when I squeezed the cushion, it was brick hard. I said, 'This is not right.' I asked the deputy to feel it, so he felt it, and he said, 'It feels all right to me.' I said, 'No, that thing is too hard.' So I asked the commissioner (Lohuis) to feel it, and he said, 'Yeah, that does feel hard.' So he peeled it back, and when he peeled it back, a square block of old wet gauze fell out that was covered with plaster. And it had an old dried-up blood stain on it."

At this point, Richardson says, it was almost time for Margarito to make his walk to the ring, and the trainer met with resistance from Margarito's people and also from the Commission's representatives about unwrapping and inspecting the pad on the already wrapped right hand.

"I asked them to unwrap the right hand," Richardson told me, "because I thought they had checked the pad on the right hand. But they were arguing about that. So I said, 'Listen, if he fights the fight and we find something in it, what would happen then?' And the commissioner said, 'You're right - unwrap the right hand.'"

When they did, a block of gauze was discovered in the right-hand pad similar to the one that had fallen out of the left. Initially, Richardson seized the evidence himself.

"I took the two pieces, and I told the commissioner that I wasn't giving them back to [Margarito's people]. I said, 'I'm only giving these to Shane's lawyer.' So I took the two pieces when we went to Shane's room to wrap Shane's hands. The lawyer came over, and the commissioner came with us, and Shane's doctor [Robert Olvera] was there. The doctor scratched one of the pieces, and it chalked up. He said, 'This is the same plaster we use to make casts in the hospital.'"

At that point, Richardson says he took the pieces back from Olvera and then surrendered the evidence to Lohuis for investigation by the Commission. The pieces were placed in a box, which was sealed with tape and signed by Mosley's lawyer, Judd Burstein - but not before Richardson ordered several people with camera-phones to snap photos of the two blocks of gauze.

When I asked Richardson if he thought that Margarito would have gained an edge against Mosley if the pads had been allowed to stand as they were, he laughed. "With the kind of condition we had Shane in," he said, "I figure if Margarito had a stick in his hand he wouldn't have beaten Shane that night."

"But it definitely would have given him an advantage, an advantage to the point of danger. And, look, I don't know for sure that Margarito knew what was in the pads. But I know for a fact that the trainer had to know. Cause he prepared the pads, so I know he knew what was in them."

It's damning account of the incident, and one wonders if and when Margarito or his handlers are going to counter it with a detailed one of their own. They are of course innocent until proven guilty by the Commission, and it's likely that they are saying as little as possible to protect themselves in the investigation. But in the absence of a thorough account from Margarito, the court of public opinion has run rampant with speculation on countless websites and blogs.

Meanwhile, the explanations offered by Margarito's camp thus far have been less than satisfying. Both Richardson and Mosley's doctor are on record as saying that the gauze blocks that came out of Margarito's pads were hard and "plaster-like," and the CSAC has deemed them "foreign substances" worthy of a temporary suspension, all calling into doubt the fighter's recent claim that this is only a matter of excess tape.

As for the claim by Margarito's co-manager, Francisco Espinoza, that it was gauze that had grown humid and started to harden of its own accord, I ran that explanation past HBO commentator and Hall-of-Fame trainer, Emanuel Steward. He didn't find it plausible in the least. As proof of his point, he mentioned that he was about to auction off the hand-wraps that Lennox Lewis used in his fights with Mike Tyson and Hasim Rahman. For more than six years, Steward has kept them in a Ziploc bag. If damp gauze ever were inclined to harden over time, one would expect that those wraps would be stiff as boards by now.

"But that material," Steward told me, "is still soft."

Naz Interview with Pedro Fernandez.


Margaritos interview on ESPN. Listen how he quickly sounds nervous as hell and he tries to throw capetillo under the bus.

This one is of Margaritos corner in the Cotto fight. Listen how his corner man ask Margarito how is the punch, and quickly Capetillo gives him the Deer on headlights look, and told the oother corner man, What punch? What are you talking about? Then Margaritos other corner man gives him water and Capetillo tells him dont get overconfident and Margarito says and will not get overconfident I know. This was at the end of round 4.

This 1 is at the end of round 9 and listen how Capetillo tells him "at this point your punches should be solid punches, but dont get overconfident"

Look at this pictures.

This first 1 is after the Torres fight

This one is of Cotto after Margarito

Look at the damage Margarito did from rounds 9-11. I mean Torres is a harder puncher at the weight than Margarito, he landed way more on Cotto, he landed way more harder punches during more rounds than Magarito, and he didnt came close to half damage Margarito did to Cotto.

Now look at Billy Colins JR. after his fight with RestoLooks familiar?

Just some proofs that, with Common sense you will see margarito cheated, but common sense is something you dont know what it is!!!!!

LMAO!!! This dude thinking Cotto and Collins looked the same. Hell even Malignaggi/Abraham looked worse or close to Cotto with their jaws broken. They didn't quit lol.

O yea, Naz says something similar about Tito. But your double standards with PR boxers apply to it I bet.

[guzi815]

Punishment should be enforced...once complete, get his *ss back in the ring and see how good he really is "without" a little help from his friends.