Cotto winning would actually be good for boxing...

[UnDeniable]

it wont happen.. floyd demands too much that he doesnt deserve.. maybe his eyes will open when the pac/cotto fight outsells his lame easy fight with marquez..

Floyd outweighs JMM by 5 - 7 lbs, Cotto outweighs Pac by 10 - 12 lbs

Floyd will accept 50/50 with Pac, i'm sure of it

[PittyPat]

Mayweather won't accept anything less than 70-30 in his favour. Belee dat!

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

... Because that way he becomes the real deal at 147, and will have the right people chasing after him (by rights they should, at least). We could see that Mosley rematch, Mayweather, Williams, a Clottey rematch, or even a Margs rematch (come on, you all know it has to happen). I would have no problem calling him the Man at 147, providing he actually fights WWs and does it with style. In the end, he's a good bloke.

A Pacquiao loss, meanwhile, would be a very good thing. Why? Well, that way we'd get to see that Marquez re-rematch (whether or not he beats Mayweather is irrelevant), or lots of other possibilities at 140 or 135 where he belongs. He will never face a live opponent at 147 - it'll always be at a catchweight or something else - so I think it's better that both men end up going back to their real divisions after all this and being the best there.

I mean, are people actually labelling Pac as a WW now? I don't really care about the catchweight for this fight anymore, but what about afterwards? With all these WWs who want to fight him, will he demand catchweights for them too? Like I said, if he loses, he'll be forced to go back to 140 or 135 where he knows he can beat anyone. One loss to a real WW (who, hopefully, will blow up to LMW or MW on the night) will surely make him think twice about setting foot in that division again.

No hate, just an observation.

I said this last week in another thread my man.....pay attention....Lefty

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5774835#post5774835

I am routing for the fans and a too see a good fight. I see more benefits for boxing if Cotto wins reason being is that Cotto will fight other WW and not require them to come down to 143-145lbs. Also if Pac loses it won't take much away from him as long as it is a good fight. he can still go back to his JWW 140lbs and take on Bradley, Witter, Campbell or JMM regardless if JMM wins the FMJ fight. I still PAC and FMJ happening as long as PAC puts up a good show with Cotto win or lose. It might be a fight in between for both FMJ and PAC if he losses to Cotto. ....Lefty

[freeloada]

Floyd outweighs JMM by 5 - 7 lbs, Cotto outweighs Pac by 10 - 12 lbs

Floyd will accept 50/50 with Pac, i'm sure of it

he already shut down the 50/50.. he wants more money.. he's already said it..

[S.G.]

he already shut down the 50/50.. he wants more money.. he's already said it..

it's still very early days in negotiations... both of them still have fights to get through!!

he's just pushing his luck. I think he'll cling on to 55-45 for a while but will eventually concede and accept 50-50

[PittyPat]

I said this last week in another thread my man.....pay attention....Lefty

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...35#post5774835

Indeed. Good call.

But with that said, I'm still somewhat torn over whom I actually want to win the fight purely on the night itself. On one hand I want Cotto to send Pac back to where he belongs (140/135) and re-establish some order at 147, but then I prefer Pac's style and have never been a fan of what Cotto brings to the ring.

I either root for a good fight, root for one man, or root for both. The last time I was in this situation was with Marquez-Diaz...

[zeidrich]

... Because that way he becomes the real deal at 147, and will have the right people chasing after him (by rights they should, at least). We could see that Mosley rematch, Mayweather, Williams, a Clottey rematch, or even a Margs rematch (come on, you all know it has to happen). I would have no problem calling him the Man at 147, providing he actually fights WWs and does it with style. In the end, he's a good bloke.

A Pacquiao loss, meanwhile, would be a very good thing. Why? Well, that way we'd get to see that Marquez re-rematch (whether or not he beats Mayweather is irrelevant), or lots of other possibilities at 140 or 135 where he belongs. He will never face a live opponent at 147 - it'll always be at a catchweight or something else - so I think it's better that both men end up going back to their real divisions after all this and being the best there.

I mean, are people actually labelling Pac as a WW now? I don't really care about the catchweight for this fight anymore, but what about afterwards? With all these WWs who want to fight him, will he demand catchweights for them too? Like I said, if he loses, he'll be forced to go back to 140 or 135 where he knows he can beat anyone. One loss to a real WW (who, hopefully, will blow up to LMW or MW on the night) will surely make him think twice about setting foot in that division again.

No hate, just an observation.

so denying the greatest match of this decade (pac-may) is good for boxing? great!!!


and if cotto wins, mayweather will retire or fight hatton, pac will retire and concentrate on politics, thats what i see that will happen.

[PittyPat]

so denying the greatest match of this decade (pac-may) is good for boxing? great!!!

Of course I want it to happen, but I'm realistic enough to realise that it most likely won't. It'll end up like Jones-Hopkins II at best.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Indeed. Good call.

But with that said, I'm still somewhat torn over whom I actually want to win the fight purely on the night itself. On one hand I want Cotto to send Pac back to where he belongs (140/135) and re-establish some order at 147, but then I prefer Pac's style and have never been a fan of what Cotto brings to the ring.

I either root for a good right, root for one man, or root for both. The last time I was in this situation was with Marquez-Diaz...

No worries mate....I say root for a good fight....Let it pan out how it is going to pan out. PAC aint gonna fight any real big WW. He is going for cash and after he fights Cotto the only other traget I can see onhis immediate radar is FMJ. The only way he is fighting JMM again is if he losses and JMM wins. To me that is only a 20% chance. I think everyone is going to be surprised come 11/14....Lefty

[fcastro1]

... Because that way he becomes the real deal at 147, and will have the right people chasing after him (by rights they should, at least). We could see that Mosley rematch, Mayweather, Williams, a Clottey rematch, or even a Margs rematch (come on, you all know it has to happen). I would have no problem calling him the Man at 147, providing he actually fights WWs and does it with style. In the end, he's a good bloke.

A Pacquiao loss, meanwhile, would be a very good thing. Why? Well, that way we'd get to see that Marquez re-rematch (whether or not he beats Mayweather is irrelevant), or lots of other possibilities at 140 or 135 where he belongs. He will never face a live opponent at 147 - it'll always be at a catchweight or something else - so I think it's better that both men end up going back to their real divisions after all this and being the best there.

I mean, are people actually labelling Pac as a WW now? I don't really care about the catchweight for this fight anymore, but what about afterwards? With all these WWs who want to fight him, will he demand catchweights for them too? Like I said, if he loses, he'll be forced to go back to 140 or 135 where he knows he can beat anyone. One loss to a real WW (who, hopefully, will blow up to LMW or MW on the night) will surely make him think twice about setting foot in that division again.

No hate, just an observation.

we all know pac aint a welterweight douchebag, he is just making the best fights for the fans and adding to his legacy before he retires.