Sorry, but... Hopkins is absolutely pathetic.

[Floydmayweather]

How you fight does not make you more or less of a champion its winning. Hopkins killed Eastman yeah it was a slow fight but he always has slow fights with fighters when he can. Like he says win this one look great in the next one.

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

In the championship rounds, if nothing else, grow a pair of balls and stand there and trade.

Why should Hopkins stand there and trade for lengthy periods of time? He uses his brain, and if you cannot appreciate that, so be it.

I'll be honest, I was rooting for Eastman and wanted Hopkins to stand there and get hit, but that would be DUMB. How can you fault him for doing what he needed to do to win?

It's not Bernard's job to please you, and because he doesn't care what the crowd thinks, he can compete with anyone on the all-time lists. He is super calm.

Eastman just wasn't smart enough to deal with Hops' style, and ultimately it's HIS job to figure out Bernard and beat him.

[+= El Jefe=+]

huh???

Do you even know what your talking about...****! ALI got into way more WARS than hopkins~!

ALI IS THE MAN! 15 round wars man! shyt! Hopkins can even come close to Ali, **** that!

mmm i guess you are the one who doesnt know what you are talking about, or you cant read.
read the ****ing statement carefuly please,
and get at me when your IQ reaches possitive #'s

[MetalVomit]

I like B-hop but I agree to an extent about him running.

Eastman did have power and he had a bit of an reach advantage. He didn't use his jab effectively and that is probabaly what cost him, other than the fact he kept getting caught with the same left hook.

B-Hop is getting old. He looked old in the ring tonight, I really think that if he stood toe to toe he would get clocked and have gotten hurt. He knew this and fought the fight that he knew would win him the match.

Was it pretty throughout the match? No. Was it effective? Yes. He did what he said he was going to do and no matter if you like the way he did it or not, he got it done.

He didnt run, he shut Eastman out. He simply exposed Eastman by showing that this guy that everyone hyped up couldnt even hit him. He was putting it on Eastman, so there is no way he ran, what did he outland him by? about 200 to about 85? He didnt run, he gave a simply and easy boxing lesson to a much lesser fighter.

[nezahualcoyotl]

mmm i guess you are the one who doesnt know what you are talking about, or you cant read.
read the ****ing statement carefuly please,
and get at me when your IQ reaches possitive #'s

Yea I cant read ok buddy...Then how am I responding to your quotes foolio. lolz.

How many fight of the years has Hopkins been in? zero.
I rest my case.

[riz]

I haven't read the fight thread yet so I don't know what the rest of you made of tonight's bout. And this isn't sour g****s from me because I lost all my points on a bet. (In a way I'm glad I lost because it means I now get to add the hilarious images IWatchBoxing has created for me as part of my punishment).

But I'm all for the sweet science of hitting and not being hit. Hell, my favourite boxer is Muhammad Ali. But there's a difference between using skill to avoid punches and just running about like a little girl who's just peed in her pants. For Christ's sake, Bernard, this was your 20th Defence in front of the boxing fraternity and Hollywood. In the championship rounds, if nothing else, grow a pair of balls and stand there and trade.

Granted, Eastman was technically deficient on some key areas tonight. But why shouldn't he be? He hasn't dealt with this class before (unless you count Joppy) and a lot of people on here were predicting he would be KOed. (Those "rabbit punches" in the early round were accidental though - Hopkins kept ducking constantly). And true enough, rather than Nuff Tump it was more a case of Not Enuff Tump.

But I would have liked to have seen Bernard box, if only once. I actually really wanted him to get bashed up tonight. Not for Eastman's sake, but because of his smug, ****y little smile when he sat on his seat, thinking he was actually doing a good job rather than just being a ***** running away and pathetically pot-shotting. Yeah, that's outwitting your opponent. It's also cheap and unmanly.

I'm not a macho type, but I wanted a fight tonight. So did the crowd. Say what you like about Howard, he wanted to deliver Nuff Tump. But the guy in the opposite corner wanted to play kiss chase. I liked it when Hopkins seem to register Howard's blow in the 11th. And I liked the fact that no matter what bomb he threw at Eastman (and there were plenty, why didn't Howard adapt?) he couldn't even phase him. Now that's a chin.

Yeah, the scores were accurate, and this is Howard's first legitimate loss (because, no matter what the judges said, he really didn't to William Joppy, by no stretch of the imagination) but how terribly undignified for this "Hall of Famer" to do it in such a weak, cowardly fashion.



I did some research on Bernard. Here's his favourite programme, from UK TV in the early 80s. He watches it all the time: theme tune clip

makes 20 defenses in a row, and fight till ur 40. dont lose in 12 years. he has to be pathetic rite. REALLY DUM. n y the hell do u care about his fav tv show. u got problems

[Stickman]

He didnt run, he shut Eastman out. He simply exposed Eastman by showing that this guy that everyone hyped up couldnt even hit him. He was putting it on Eastman, so there is no way he ran, what did he outland him by? about 200 to about 85? He didnt run, he gave a simply and easy boxing lesson to a much lesser fighter.

Don't sell Eastman short. He's a great fighter, it's just that Hopkins could make damned near anyone look bad, and even so, Eastman didn't look bad, he just failed to make a couple of small adjustments that could've won him the fight. Eastman is very fast, has world class skill, and plenty of experience. I think his true weakness is his corner, more than anything else. They weren't telling him how to keep from catching that leaping left hook, which is the punch that won Hopkins the fight, and they should've been harping on that non-stop in the corner, and thinking of a way around it.

[Slipx]

You are a joke. Hopkins gave him a one sided beating without even trying. Stop hyping your countrymen. To support them is one thing, to worship them is another. Just because you live in the same country as them it doesnt mean they are good. Eastman was thoroughly dominated and he didnt even deserve to share the ****ing ring with Hopkins.

Godzhand speaks my exact thoughts here. Anorak, as usual, you prove yourself as a disgrace to the board, as do all in agreement with him. That is all.

It's sad the sport's fan base is full of people who fail to appreciate true skill when they see it, or have respect for a fighter smart enough to counter the risks of boxing by effectively eliminating the risks he takes. Longevity is the key word here. His fellow pugils that were fighting with him when he started boxing have mostly quit, and are looking up to him, thinking 'He is still champ, and I'm here..maybe if I didn't have an agressive style, and take much punishment every bout, I would have lasted as long as B-Hop has'

Have some respect you novices. Nard is forty years old, don't expect him to come out in round one like Tyson. Instead, respect him for throwing that left hook perfectly at the right time as fast as Roy threw it in his prime..


ps- is there a way to ignore a user's posts/threads?

[paulmmv]

he did what it took to win and he did a good job at it

[Guest]

Jose and Scap, I've paid up 100,000 points to you each for the bet. I have no qualms in that at all, I love a good bet. I just wish I'd lost it on a more entertaining bout.

And I'm about to donate the remainder of my points (over one and a half million) to IWatchBoxing, as agreed. He also had some other punishment for me if I lost the bet, can you tell what it is?

As for the idea of Hopkins beating Howard... please. Yes, he did beat Howard. But never, but NEVER, use words like "dominated" to describe a performance like that. He **** his pants and ran all night, yes. If that's your idea of domination, maybe you've been spending too much time in S & M parlours and not enough at ringside.