*******s don't have a clue ....

[tesla_power]

... On how Pacquiao could beat Cotto, they are hoping and praying he is shot and are basing Pacquiao beating Cotto on how Pacquiao looked in the Pacquiao - Hatton fight and how Cotto looked in the Cotto-Clottey fight, let me start by saying, Hatton nor Clottey has the style of Cotto or Pacquiao, respectively, Pacquiao's defense is not as great as Clottey nor does Cotto fight anything at all like Hatton, he doesn't bounce around throwing one punch at a time like Hatton does, Cotto is a combination puncher, and his handspeed is underrated, Pacquiao will use a gameplan similar to the one he used with De La Hoya, using the lateral movements, and coming in and out, let me remind you of how well Cotto cuts off the ring and how he times he's opponents with his jab, right hand and left hook combination, or other combinations he uses, Cotto has shown he can work with speed as evidenced in the Judah and Mosley fights, now Roach says that he is going to find trends in Cotto style the same as he did with Hatton, the only trend that Cotto has is that when he has his opponents hurts he lowers his hands grasps for air and then hits his opponents with anything, I doubt that when he hurts Pacquiao, Pacquiao will want to try to land something, Cotto fights each fight differently and his combinations are not repetitive hence he doesn't have any trends. Now keep praying Cotto is shot but I mean shot to hell because that's the only way Pacquiao will do something.

For the bold part ... he does have bad habits. When he goes into his pressure mode... you'll know it because he bends his knees with his hands high. You can hit him there with right hands and uppercuts. Also, he has been looking to land that huge left for his last 3 fights. This is similar when the old pac often goes headhunting ... he is left open.

As for pac, he is spins to the right when moving away. If cotto can time this... well, I don't have to say it.

It will be interesting if there will be a chess match between them but Cotto have a disadvantage here unless he gets a good corner.

[PR Boxer]

What the hell do you think he did with DLH? All DLH did was eat punches.

Dude I suggest you watch the fight, He used movement and combinations against De La Hoya, he didn't pressure him non-stop.

[Undefeated]

Mosley is fast never said he wasnt. But his work rate in addition to his speed dont match Mannys. Meaning he fights in spurts with pop and speed. with top guys. Hes a veteran of the game.
Judah has quick hands and pop on them. BUT...to what kind of opponents? Please check for yourself.
Manny...Again is Non stop throwing. They TWO cannot be used as a mirror image of Manny. like TS was making it out to be.
Glad to be of some humor to you lol. But seriously check the stats Im not making this up. Gonna be a great fight no doubt. Style will be the factor.

If you wanna go off and base a fighters style off of competition (Judah), then you have to look at the weight drained De La Hoya then. I mean Judah is fast and can hit. Plain and simple. He caught Floyd good a couple of times, and you can tell that Floyd was buzzed, but knowing Judah, he doesn't finish and fights good for the beginning rounds only.. Infact he knocked down Floyd, but wasn't ruled a knockdown.

Manny throws non stop, but I doubt he will do it with Cotto.. I mean I see Manny trying to box Cotto at first, and then be lured into taking chances. This fight is REAL HARD for Pacman. Everyone is discrediting Cotto a lot, just because he looked like **** in his last fight.. Even with one eye he continued, and didn't quit. Cotto didn't have a great night, but you best of believe that Manny and Cotto are going to in hell on November 14th.

Cotto is no stranger to southpaws, and its going to be good. Manny doesn't throw constant uppercuts, but I can see him throwing a couple and landing, and it might make him feel confident in using them more. Cotto has a lot of head movement, so Manny throwing flurries and actually landing a great amount will probably be narrowed down to like 3 out of 10 punches landing, compared to a fighter with no head movement, which would probably be beheaded and ****. Cotto is no Hatton.. he doesn't come forward throwing and lunging. Cotto has head movement, and good lateral movement as well..

I'm telling you.. Its going to be hell on November 14th.. "A Fight to Remember.. That should be the title for this bout.

[PACBOY]

If you wanna go off and base a fighters style off of competition (Judah), then you have to look at the weight drained De La Hoya then. I mean Judah is fast and can hit. Plain and simple. He caught Floyd good a couple of times, and you can tell that Floyd was buzzed, but knowing Judah, he doesn't finish and fights good for the beginning rounds only.. Infact he knocked down Floyd, but wasn't ruled a knockdown.

Manny throws non stop, but I doubt he will do it with Cotto.. I mean I see Manny trying to box Cotto at first, and then be lured into taking chances. This fight is REAL HARD for Pacman. Everyone is discrediting Cotto a lot, just because he looked like **** in his last fight.. Even with one eye he continued, and didn't quit. Cotto didn't have a great night, but you best of believe that Manny and Cotto are going to in hell on November 14th.

Cotto is no stranger to southpaws, and its going to be good. Manny doesn't throw constant uppercuts, but I can see him throwing a couple and landing, and it might make him feel confident in using them more. Cotto has a lot of head movement, so Manny throwing flurries and actually landing a great amount will probably be narrowed down to like 3 out of 10 punches landing, compared to a fighter with no head movement, which would probably be beheaded and ****. Cotto is no Hatton.. he doesn't come forward throwing and lunging. Cotto has head movement, and good lateral movement as well..

I'm telling you.. Its going to be hell on November 14th.. "A Fight to Remember.. That should be the title for this bout.

Im hyped for the fight. I dont think Cotto is a bum by no means and I can see it being a really good fight if it goes the distance. IF Manny decides to box and not pressure Cotto, I think that will work in Cottos favor. I cant see Roach asking Manny to not apply pressure when Cotto DOES have issues with it. In our gym we have a ole saying,"you are only good as your last fight"...Most people remember your last fight as a mile marker. Cotto has had three fights that has raised eyebrows...Marg, Jennings and Clottey. Two of them he didnt look good. I cant see him getting better. And he is fighting a bad ass in Manny Pacquiao. We can agrere on one thing...It will be a great fight. All of what you said about Cottos movement is true. Although he is on the slow side of this fight. Manny is on the fast side, and he aint no Judah.
It will be hell in that ring. I see Cotto on the short end of the stick though.

[tesla_power]

If you wanna go off and base a fighters style off of competition (Judah), then you have to look at the weight drained De La Hoya then. I mean Judah is fast and can hit. Plain and simple. He caught Floyd good a couple of times, and you can tell that Floyd was buzzed, but knowing Judah, he doesn't finish and fights good for the beginning rounds only.. Infact he knocked down Floyd, but wasn't ruled a knockdown.

Manny throws non stop, but I doubt he will do it with Cotto.. I mean I see Manny trying to box Cotto at first, and then be lured into taking chances. This fight is REAL HARD for Pacman. Everyone is discrediting Cotto a lot, just because he looked like **** in his last fight.. Even with one eye he continued, and didn't quit. Cotto didn't have a great night, but you best of believe that Manny and Cotto are going to in hell on November 14th.

Cotto is no stranger to southpaws, and its going to be good. Manny doesn't throw constant uppercuts, but I can see him throwing a couple and landing, and it might make him feel confident in using them more. Cotto has a lot of head movement, so Manny throwing flurries and actually landing a great amount will probably be narrowed down to like 3 out of 10 punches landing, compared to a fighter with no head movement, which would probably be beheaded and ****. Cotto is no Hatton.. he doesn't come forward throwing and lunging. Cotto has head movement, and good lateral movement as well..

I'm telling you.. Its going to be hell on November 14th.. "A Fight to Remember.. That should be the title for this bout.

Great post. Although IMO Pac is very conservative now with his flurries. I notice he does that only if he feels he is trapped. This is also the reason why his accuracy has increased. That 3/10 might be the old pac but you could be right. Let's see fight night.

[Undefeated]

Im hyped for the fight. I dont think Cotto is a bum by no means and I can see it being a really good fight if it goes the distance. IF Manny decides to box and not pressure Cotto, I think that will work in Cottos favor. I cant see Roach asking Manny to not apply pressure when Cotto DOES have issues with it. In our gym we have a ole saying,"you are only good as your last fight"...Most people remember your last fight as a mile marker. Cotto has had three fights that has raised eyebrows...Marg, Jennings and Clottey. Two of them he didnt look good. I cant see him getting better. And he is fighting a bad ass in Manny Pacquiao. We can agrere on one thing...It will be a great fight. All of what you said about Cottos movement is true. Although he is on the slow side of this fight. Manny is on the fast side, and he aint no Judah.
It will be hell in that ring. I see Cotto on the short end of the stick though.

Manny isn't as big as Tony to muscle you around the way Tony did with Cotto. Cotto only lost that fight because he didn't clinch, he fought the wrong gameplan, and he payed for it. Its his fault.

Cotto was doing good until the headbutt came in the Clottey fight. There aren't many people who would've done what Cotto did. I mean "Hey" people are entitled to their own opinions, but if ANYONE thinks this fight is easy for Pacman... You better watch how much money you put on Manny. Manny has been tagged and hurt by smaller fighters.. Cotto has been tagged also, but can Manny take a flush shot from a real welterweight? That's the big question mark. Manny has a granite chin though, and I know for a fact that if Cotto can't find his way upstairs, he will go the Torres Vs Cotto fight plan, which is massive body shots, and I'm sure Cotto will get tagged a lot going downstairs..

Ugh.. Can't wait for this ****.. This is unreal. lol

[shadeyfizzle]

Dude I suggest you watch the fight, He used movement and combinations against De La Hoya, he didn't pressure him non-stop.

1st he didnt come to pressure him. Now its he didnt pressure him non stop. If Pacquiao wasnt pressuring dlh then why didnt dlh being the bigger guy just charge right in and smother pacquiao?? I guess dlh wasnt trying to pressure pacquiao either then right?

[PACBOY]

Manny isn't as big as Tony to muscle you around the way Tony did with Cotto. Cotto only lost that fight because he didn't clinch, he fought the wrong gameplan, and he payed for it. Its his fault.

Cotto was doing good until the headbutt came in the Clottey fight. There aren't many people who would've done what Cotto did. I mean "Hey" people are entitled to their own opinions, but if ANYONE thinks this fight is easy for Pacman... You better watch how much money you put on Manny. Manny has been tagged and hurt by smaller fighters.. Cotto has been tagged also, but can Manny take a flush shot from a real welterweight? That's the big question mark. Manny has a granite chin though, and I know for a fact that if Cotto can't find his way upstairs, he will go the Torres Vs Cotto fight plan, which is massive body shots, and I'm sure Cotto will get tagged a lot going downstairs..

Ugh.. Can't wait for this ****.. This is unreal. lol

I know dude lol we can go back and forth with the intangibles all the way through Nov. We can only hype it up until the bell....Its one of those fights you can feel the anxiety before the ring walk. All of what you said is perfect sense. I may not agree with it all because I feel Manny is just to exsplosive when he want and needs to be. Also he has slowed down and became very accurate with his shots. Hes brutal and Im not letting being a fan of his cloud my judgment. I just cant for the life of me see Cotto beating Manny. lol I wish this fight was tomorrow lol

[m00ks]

... On how Pacquiao could beat Cotto, they are hoping and praying he is shot and are basing Pacquiao beating Cotto on how Pacquiao looked in the Pacquiao - Hatton fight and how Cotto looked in the Cotto-Clottey fight, let me start by saying, Hatton nor Clottey has the style of Cotto or Pacquiao, respectively, Pacquiao's defense is not as great as Clottey nor does Cotto fight anything at all like Hatton, he doesn't bounce around throwing one punch at a time like Hatton does, Cotto is a combination puncher, and his handspeed is underrated, Pacquiao will use a gameplan similar to the one he used with De La Hoya, using the lateral movements, and coming in and out, let me remind you of how well Cotto cuts off the ring and how he times he's opponents with his jab, right hand and left hook combination, or other combinations he uses, Cotto has shown he can work with speed as evidenced in the Judah and Mosley fights, now Roach says that he is going to find trends in Cotto style the same as he did with Hatton, the only trend that Cotto has is that when he has his opponents hurts he lowers his hands grasps for air and then hits his opponents with anything, I doubt that when he hurts Pacquiao, Pacquiao will want to try to land something, Cotto fights each fight differently and his combinations are not repetitive hence he doesn't have any trends. Now keep praying Cotto is shot but I mean shot to hell because that's the only way Pacquiao will do something.

Sounds like you're already preparing an excuse. Don't know how you can say Pac's defense isn't great, he hasn't lost a round nor has he taken a meaningful punch in his last 3 fights. I think his defense is pretty good

[PR Boxer]

1st he didnt come to pressure him. Now its he didnt pressure him non stop. If Pacquiao wasnt pressuring dlh then why didnt dlh being the bigger guy just charge right in and smother pacquiao?? I guess dlh wasnt trying to pressure pacquiao either then right?

What I meant to say is that Manny didn't throw punches non-stop, I accidentally wrote pressure.