Is Valero the worst 2 Division champion of all Time?

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  • Silencers
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    #11
    I think Valero gets some unnecessary criticism honestly, I've watched most of his fights and I can say that Valero has a lot of talent, he just needs to get things down technically. Maybe it'll take a loss for him to actually start listening to his trainers but if he does start listening and starts tightening his technique up, he'd be a very tough guy to beat.

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    • ny123
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      #12
      too early to judge lets wait and see how he does against top comp before we say he is the worst 2 division champ ever

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      • tesla_power
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        #13
        Originally posted by Silencers
        I think Valero gets some unnecessary criticism honestly, I've watched most of his fights and I can say that Valero has a lot of talent, he just needs to get things down technically. Maybe it'll take a loss for him to actually start listening to his trainers but if he does start listening and starts tightening his technique up, he'd be a very tough guy to beat.
        Yup. I agree. It's just that when he got in a good flush shot to his opponent, he rushed in for the kill... abandoning defensive position. If he ever got in with a good fighter that could handle his power and Valero came out on top, I would be a fan. For now, I'm still on the fence.

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        • baracuda
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          #14
          tbh,valero reminds me of pac in his early years......but time is not on his side of accomplishing a lot....plus the licensing thing.....hope to see him more...

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          • Clint650
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            #15
            he's good. atleast he's off to a damn good start anyways. I'd like to see him in a bigger fight. he's definitely not some paper champion.

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            • DonTaseMeBrah
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              #16
              ignorant ****ing thread.

              Valero is the real deal.

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              • shadeyfizzle
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                #17
                Originally posted by GetSumBrah
                ignorant ****ing thread.

                Valero is the real deal.
                Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                Hell no. He's just a victim of circumstance and made due with the hand he was dealt. But make no mistake....Valero is the real deal. I'd lay down all my points he beats everyone at lightweight not named Juan Manuel Marquez.
                Yep. Agreed

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                • Espada
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by GetSumBrah
                  ignorant ****ing thread.

                  Valero is the real deal.
                  By beating Japanese ****stars you become the real deal

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                  • LA BAD BOY
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                    #19
                    he is great fighter you ***in clown!
                    PITALUA smash Cruz and Cruz beat Casamayor but got robbed!

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                    • F l i c k e r
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                      Hell no. He's just a victim of circumstance and made due with the hand he was dealt. But make no mistake....Valero is the real deal. I'd lay down all my points he beats everyone at lightweight not named Juan Manuel Marquez.
                      I'm with you. Valero would beat everyone at lightweight not named Juan Manuel Marquez.

                      25(25 Kos)-0-0 that is hard for anybody to do.

                      Originally posted by Espada
                      By beating Japanese ****stars you become the real deal
                      He hardly fights Japanese guys. He lives in Japan but he doesn't fight just Japanese guys.

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