haye vs valuev....the most random ass fight this year

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  • TheGreatA
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    #11
    Originally posted by detluv
    unless valuev is really that ****ty i don't see haye getting the KO....i say haye will beat him on points.
    Valuev is terrible but he has a granite chin. The only way he gets stopped is if he can't defend himself and that's possible due to him being so slow especially compared to Haye's speed.

    The most interesting thing about this fight to me is whether Haye will punch himself trying to knock Valuev out. It's his style after all to go after the knockout instead of trying to win by decision.

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    • Kris Silver
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      #12
      Yup pretty random but clever, it'll pave the best longterm HW road for Haye, open to him at least.

      Thing is though, at this stage Valuev is in talks with some ok peeps so any fight with him is gona sound random at first. But some people want his belt.

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        #13
        Originally posted by KrisSilver
        Yup pretty random but clever, it'll pave the best longterm HW road for Haye, open to him at least.

        Thing is though, at this stage Valuev is in talks with some ok peeps so any fight with him is gona sound random at first. But some people want his belt.
        I think everyone has realized that the easiest way to get a heavyweight title around your waist is by fighting Valuev. Old man Holyfield pretty much exposed him for what he is.

        If Haye gets to fight him above everyone else, he should consider it a gift because he hasn't exactly earned it in any way. Then again a Haye vs Valuev match-up sounds far more interesting than Valuev vs Ruiz III, Valuev vs Holyfield II, Valuev vs Chagaev II...

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        • keepthemhandsup
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          #14
          Originally posted by TheGreatA
          Valuev is terrible but he has a granite chin. The only way he gets stopped is if he can't defend himself and that's possible due to him being so slow especially compared to Haye's speed.

          The most interesting thing about this fight to me is whether Haye will punch himself trying to knock Valuev out. It's his style after all to go after the knockout instead of trying to win by decision.
          i agree with that.....cause haye anit just gonna stand there he gonna try and hit em as much as possible....i haven't seen haye do well in the later rounds so if he is going to out point him he better no try throw to many punches

          Originally posted by KrisSilver
          Yup pretty random but clever, it'll pave the best longterm HW road for Haye, open to him at least.

          Thing is though, at this stage Valuev is in talks with some ok peeps so any fight with him is gona sound random at first. But some people want his belt.

          i know people want his belt...but it just the way david been talking about how he gonna beat the kilts then all of a sudden BAM valuev......

          in fact if valuev fought anyone else but haye it wouldn't sound as random

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          • Kris Silver
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            #15
            Well, someone not following events might look at all this Haye stuff and say he had no intention of really facing a Klit so early on.

            But he obviously did, signed, went to a lot of effort. Just how events have turned out. It's a disgrace the Klits are trying to control his future fights with excessive mandatories and such. Complete anti-competitive and dominating measures those so I'm glad in a way.

            I'm amazed no ones talked of Haye getting robbed in Germany period, especially now against Valuev.

            Give it a minute or so, and somewhat valid.

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              #16
              Originally posted by KrisSilver
              Well, someone not following events might look at all this Haye stuff and say he had no intention of really facing a Klit so early on.

              But he obviously did, signed, went to a lot of effort. Just how events have turned out. It's a disgrace the Klits are trying to control his future fights with excessive mandatories and such. Complete anti-competitive and dominating measures those so I'm glad in a way.

              I'm amazed no ones talked of Haye getting robbed in Germany period, especially now against Valuev.

              Give it a minute or so, and somewhat valid.
              I think it's so obvious by now that no one even cares to talk about it. Everyone saw what happened to Holyfield, Donald and Ruiz when they fought Valuev. Even Chagaev barely got by with a majority decision.

              Valuev is not very aggressive and despite all his size doesn't punch very hard so I'm not sure if he could stop even an exhausted Haye. He could however come back in the later rounds well enough to pull off another decision win, whether he deserves it or not.

              It's not going to be an easy fight Haye I don't think.

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