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  • jayschre
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    #21
    Originally posted by joeboxer
    True, Vargas stood a lot longer against Tito than Mayorga did and no one calls mayorga "glass jaw"

    I know Vargas didn't stand there asking to get hit like Mayorga did either but he almost made to the end of the fight which is pretty impressive.
    Actually if you watch the fight, Vargas made it out of the 1st rd. only by some kinda divine interventio, cause he got the **** knocked outta him twice in the first two minutes of rd. 1. So to say that he stood longer than Mayorga is crap, because the last time I saw the fight he stood then fell then stood then fell then stood for awhile longer then fell a bunch of times! LOL!!!!

    As for his big comeback, this guy is as done as anyone I've seen in awhile. He didn't take DLH's shots to well at 154, and anybody can see that Oscar didn't carry his power up in those higher weights like he should have(which imo is why he wants to go back to 147). The fight I want to see at 154 is Vargas vs. Mayorga. Cause it would be ****in hilarious to watch Vargas get smoked by someone as ****y as Mayorga.

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    • poeticlyskuac
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      #22
      Originally posted by jayschre
      Actually if you watch the fight, Vargas made it out of the 1st rd. only by some kinda divine interventio, cause he got the **** knocked outta him twice in the first two minutes of rd. 1. So to say that he stood longer than Mayorga is crap, because the last time I saw the fight he stood then fell then stood then fell then stood for awhile longer then fell a bunch of times! LOL!!!!

      As for his big comeback, this guy is as done as anyone I've seen in awhile. He didn't take DLH's shots to well at 154, and anybody can see that Oscar didn't carry his power up in those higher weights like he should have(which imo is why he wants to go back to 147). The fight I want to see at 154 is Vargas vs. Mayorga. Cause it would be ****in hilarious to watch Vargas get smoked by someone as ****y as Mayorga.

      Well I wouldn't say oscar didn't have power I would say that he was without the devastating power he had his whole career. In the hop fight he was clearly trying to avoid getting hit by Hop and not *****g anything on his punches. Quartey when DLH and Trinidad was around were was the best in the division. He beat DLH. And in my opinion ball punching tactics were the only reason Trinidad survived Vargas. Vargas at one point was cleary showing his power to Trinidad. I remember that was the fight I lost all respect for Trinidad. He was clearly cheating in that fight, I havn't seen to many fighters hit the cup that squarely. Vargas is as tough as they come although a lil **** outside of the ring he was still a very good and exciting fighter. If he would have learned of dirty tactics before Trinidad he prolly would have had a better chance at Trinidad.

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      • FightFan214
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        #23
        Yeah, you took the words right outta my mouth, if Trinidad hadent punched him in the nuts so many times in the 4th round Vargas would have probably tko'ed tito. Plus mayorga never even hurt trinidad, vargas knocked him down

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        • jack_the_rippuh
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          #24
          Originally posted by Mayweatherfan
          I heard that Vargas is just going to fight once at 160 then go back to 154. I think 154 is a good division for Vargas.
          I agree. He can beat anyone at 154. The only person who would give him trouble is Wright (and he can't even punch...just like the rest of the 154lbers.) The ones who can punch are slow..

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          • MWCOFSU
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            #25
            Originally posted by FightFan214
            Yeah, you took the words right outta my mouth, if Trinidad hadent punched him in the nuts so many times in the 4th round Vargas would have probably tko'ed tito. Plus mayorga never even hurt trinidad, vargas knocked him down
            Wasnt the first time Trinidad had been floored though. Mayorga had little power at middleweight(look at his previous fights above welter). Mayorga was dropped by an accumulation of punches to the head and body. Vargas was hurt with one left hook. Which if I'm not mistaken..the same left hook that Mayorga allowed Tito to hit him with twice!

            Yea Vargas has heart, I'll give him that. He's a warrior, i'll give him that too. He might have decent chin..but he is "chinny". Probably doesnt make any sense. I'm just saying if you hit Nando on the button with a decent shot, you can put him down. He'll get up, but you can still put him down. That shot DLH hit him with late wasnt a huge shot.. it hit him right..and Nando was on ***** street.

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            • Tha Greatest
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              #26
              ya
              Didnt u see how many low blows trinidad gave Vargas
              I'm sure that REALLY affected him

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              • BBFM
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                #27
                Well it hasent happened yet so stfu and dont talk till then *****.

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                • oldgringo
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                  #28
                  Honestly...Ouma would eat Vargas for breakfast at 154.

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                  • THRILLAinmanila
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by oldgringo
                    Honestly...Ouma would eat Vargas for breakfast at 154.

                    hey OG, march 19 is fast approaching...
                    what do you say we up our bet to keep it more exciting ?

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                    • oldgringo
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by -thrillaINmanila-
                      hey OG, march 19 is fast approaching...
                      what do you say we up our bet to keep it more exciting ?

                      I would love to, but unfortunately my funding is completely gone. I wish we could make it 100 mil but I guess i'll have to settle with taking that 38 mil from you for now


                      No but honestly, with the taxes, I dunno if I even have enough to shell out all of the dough come fight time. Maybe ill ask for donations again. I have to do the math.

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