Roy Jones Jr. OVERRATED?????

[trinidadpr87]

I can add more names to that list...

Antonio Tarver, John Ruiz, Lou Del Valle, Virgil Hill, Eric Lucas, Eric Harding, Thulane Malinga, Reggie Johnson, Montell Griffin, Merqui Sosa and I'm sure there are more I am forgetting.

These were all good fighters, and Roy made most of them look like asses.

Why do people always say Ruiz sucks but when people name Roy Jones's good opponents he's up there.

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

i just don't understand what ypu are trying to say. If you are saying Hops has better technique, I agree with you. He has better "textbook" skills. If you are saying he is the better man in the ring then I disagree with you, although I think both fighters are all-time greats.

[+= El Jefe=+]

Speed

i just don't understand what ypu are trying to say. If you are saying Hops has better technique, I agree with you. He has better "textbook" skills. If you are saying he is the better man in the ring then I disagree with you, although I think both fighters are all-time greats.

I think RJJ's style relays too much on his atletic skills,
B-Hop is a better technicall figther, wich allows B-Hop to be
real good even if he looses his speed,
and If you take RJJ's speed away he is in deep ****( just look at his last two fights)

[trinidadpr87]

I think RJJ's style relays too much on his atletic skills,
B-Hop is a better technicall figther, wich allows B-Hop to be
real good even if he looses his speed,
and If you take RJJ's speed away he is in deep ****( just look at his last two fights)

If b-hop made rjj back up he could win.But it's a different story if they fought on the outside.

[jack_the_rippuh]

I wonder where all the people that said Jones is overrated in other threads are. Goes to prove that most of them have no idea what they're talking about.

Yeah, I guess they did it for the posts..
Anyway, I don't think Roy Jones Jr. is overrated. He's one of the best things to come from the 90s..

[Mr. Ryan]

Nice try... Unfortunately, your opinion is a little too out there to be taken seriously. Calling his opponents "no quality" is a disgrace to the sport of boxing, and to your "reputaion beyond repute" here at BoxingScene. Between the years of 1994-2004, Jones beat everyone.

James Toney
Bernard Hopkins
Clinton Wood
Eric Lucas
Reggie Johnson
Otis Grant
Lou del Valle
Virgil Hill
Montell Griffin
Mike McCallum
Vinny Pazienza
Jorge Castro and
Jorge Vaca
I've decided not to entertain the John Ruiz comment. You and I both know that was a good fight for Roy. He couldn't turn it down.

My reputation, heres the difference, I have one, you don't. Wait till you have 100 posts to start speaking about reputation. As far as Jorge Vaca and Jorge Castro being world class opposition, thats laughable. Vinny Paz and Mike McCallum were done when they faced Jones. Lou Del Valle, Otis Grant, Clinton Woods, and Eric Lucas were never anything special. He was losing to Montell Griffin in the first fight before being DQ'ed. And Griffin wasn't anything, either. Hopkins and Toney are the only guys he beat that I think meant something. The John Ruiz thing was when I totally lost respect for Jones.

I've decided not to entertain the John Ruiz comment.

Brilliant move, let it slide.

[Guest]

Wait, let me clarify this... did we say Clinton Woods was a good fighter in this thread? I thought people had him down as a bum?

[pacmanrulz]

Why do people always say Ruiz sucks but when people name Roy Jones's good opponents he's up there.

Roy won big time and was undefeated for a long time! He is a future hall of famer in my book for sure

[Stickman]

A couple of you hit the nail on the head. Roy wasn't nearly as skilled as he was talented. That doesn't mean he was overrated, just that he was destined to have an early end to his career, when his reflexes slowed and he wasn't able to get out from in front of the bigger shots. Roy hardly ever got hit with big shots a couple of years ago, and when he did get hit with them, he was moving with them and the effects were lessened. But his reactions slowed slightly, just enough that it gets him in trouble. He was a truly great fighter, with a natural skill and agility that put him in a class with Ali (and a mouth, too). Such a shame he didn't apply himself, and become a better boxer as well. If he had, he'd still have another couple of years in his prime.

Anyway, Nope. Not overrated at all, and I agree that he almost certainly deserves a spot in the boxing Hall of Fame. Natural talents like him, who rise to the pinnacle of their potential, are exceedingly rare in any sport.

[SouthBayBboy]

Thank you all for helping me shut the Roy Jones haters up. Many people can say he was overrated, but can't explain why...

Thanks again.