Hopkins (Overrated?)

[IwatchBoxing]

Oscar De La Hoya
William Joppy
Felix Trinidad
Antwun Echols
Glen Johnson


All credible wins and along with his defense amount he gets his legacy.

Wow, what a great record , he is overrated, on a scale to 1-10, he is an 8, both Oscar, and Trinidad are 9's.

[spinksjinx]

Wow, what a great record , he is overrated, on a scale to 1-10, he is an 8, both Oscar, and Trinidad are 9's.

He is definately in the top 5 of all time and if you beg to differ list your top 5.

[IwatchBoxing]

He is definately in the top 5 of all time and if you beg to differ list your top 5.

Top 5? How could he be considered top 5, when the biggest fight he had, with a natural middleweight, he lost, with Roy jones? Roy Jones top 5, thats a disgrace to fighters who fought real contenders in the middleweight divsion, and won.

[spinksjinx]

Top 5? How could he be considered top 5, when the biggest fight he had, with a natural middleweight, he lost, with Roy jones? Roy Jones top 5, thats a disgrace to fighters who fought real contenders in the middleweight divsion, and won.

LIST LIST LIST.

[bigdlb12]

Of course he deserves it. My point was that he doesn't have the resume to be considered the best middleweight of all time. Hagler at least had Leonard and Hearnes, two of the best fighters at that weight we've ever seen. Even though they moved up in weight alot like De La Hoya, they were still elite opponents who were far beyond the skill of ANY fighter B-Hop has fought. The opponents B-Hop has faced can be considered decent, but he hasn't beaten any great fighters to deserve the "Best Middleweight Ever" award. It's definitely not all his fault, but that still doesn't prove anything. I have so many boxing-obsessed friends and co-workers who say the same thing so I know it can't just be me.

the Hagler of today is Trinidad and the Leonard of today is Oscar DLH, B-Hop has no match out there

[Rcar]

Hes about to do the big 20, theres nothing you can say about that.

[DiegoFuego]

Anyone who claims Hopkins is overrated is either new to the sport or belongs in a mental hospital

[Moon]

Don't fool yourself. The middleweight championship has long been portrayed as the next best thing compared to the heavyweight crown. That's why they fought him, because he's the middleweight champ.

Agreed 100%, Full Stop.

Now we've got the Feather scene of the 2000's looking like the Middle scene of the 80's.

[Moon]

ScramWarrior: Comparing Vitali's "conquests" to-date, as Champ, to Hopkins' opponents as Champ, is just plain silly, really.

In the Heavy scene today, where do you find the equivalent of Echols? Who in the Heavy scene would be Vitali's Trinidad? Maybe if Vitali can reign for 12 years like Hops, then maybe these guys will come along and help Vitali build a legacy. But, I believe Vitali will not pass these tests, as Hops has.

[MetalVomit]

Of course he deserves it. My point was that he doesn't have the resume to be considered the best middleweight of all time. Hagler at least had Leonard and Hearnes, two of the best fighters at that weight we've ever seen. Even though they moved up in weight alot like De La Hoya, they were still elite opponents who were far beyond the skill of ANY fighter B-Hop has fought. The opponents B-Hop has faced can be considered decent, but he hasn't beaten any great fighters to deserve the "Best Middleweight Ever" award. It's definitely not all his fault, but that still doesn't prove anything. I have so many boxing-obsessed friends and co-workers who say the same thing so I know it can't just be me.

Was sugar ray leonard that great at middleweight?