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  • Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
    hey blazed im blazed too, pac is good but really you think pac will beat shane ? does pac have margaritos chin HEll no! IM SORRY IVE ALWAYS FELT THERES NO WAY PAC BEATS SHANE.


    Margo's whiskers is as tough as they come, and he NEEDS it for his lack of defense. Pacquiao doesn't use his chin to tire out his opponents, there are other ways...

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    • Pac will have another dead fighter in front of him at 140. Next for Pac will be Roy Jones at 140, then Wlad at 140.

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      • I give him credit. If a 44 year old Hopkins can lose 5 lbs to fight Pavlik why cant Mosley? Shane ask for it and he will get it.

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        • Originally posted by cincyreds View Post
          If this fight happens I can't wait to listen to all the backpeddling that will be going on after Mosely beats Manny. Manny has never faced a complete fighter at Shane's level (speed AND power). As for 140 - what is wrong with you idiots? Do you not remember that Shane absolutely OBLITERATED the lightweight division? He should have no problem at 140.

          Shane isn't over the hill by any means. You people seem so enamored with Manny that you automatically dismiss virtually any potential opponent as having no chance.

          If this fight happens I sincerely believe you will see Shane KO Manny.

          By the way, I'm a BIG fan of Manny, but I think Shane has the skills to beat Manny. In fact, I think Manny's style is made for Shane - you'll see an all out shootout and Shane excels in those type of matches.

          Everyone ages differently. A 37 year old Mosely is not like any other 37 year old. Shane does not fade late. Shane's right is tailor made for Manny. I'll even go so far as to say you'll see Manny KO'd by a Moseley right hand within the last 2 rounds of the fight.

          And why do you morons say he'll look like a skeleton at 140? He'll look just like Manny at 140 - in shape and ripped. 140lbs is 140lbs. He looked great at 135, so why would you think skeleton at 140? Just more nonsensical arguments.

          But unfortunately, after all this blathering, I doubt you'll see this fight happen. Too bad. It'd be a great one because styles make fights.
          delahoya was also devastating at 135 and 140 and 147... did that mean he could return to 147 after 10 years and be the same fighter????.....
          shane mite be able to be healthy at 140..but if he conditions him self perfectly and he doesnt do a dlh and weigh 2 pounds under a week before the fight!.. if shane does it right he'll weigh 140 at tha weigh-in and blow up to 150+ on fight night.

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          • No downside to any of this for Pac. At 140 he will murder Shane. If he goes through with the Cotto fight I expect him to knock Cotto out (I have no dog in that fight, just what I see happening). So when you really think about it, not fighting Floyd right now is fantastic for Pac. Save that for his final fight after he beats a weighdrained Mosely to a pulp or after koing Cotto or both. But things are looking up from the #1 P4P no matter what. JMM is older now and slowing, and he may not be the same fighter he once was if they ever face again. So that is another option that could make him look even better.

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            • lets get it on..

              theres no reason why manny will refuse mosley`s offer, why not give what mosley wants? bakbakan na....

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              • Originally posted by MakeDamnSure View Post
                I give him credit. If a 44 year old Hopkins can lose 5 lbs to fight Pavlik why cant Mosley? Shane ask for it and he will get it.
                hop droping 5 lbs wasnt hard for him.. he fought taylor at 160 in dec 2005.. and he fought calzaghe at 173 last year... and he fought winky in 07 at the same 170 limit...

                shane hasnt fought at under 140 since 1999/2000!!

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                • well of course its a win-win situation for mosley if he fights pacquiao at 140 lbs... IF shane will loss, then they will say he is weight drained and he has the money he wants... if he wins, then he will be on the spotlight again and can have better fights coming to him...

                  Nice move by shane... Sounds desperate but it is a wise thing to do knowing that he is getting old...

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                  • Originally posted by MafiosA View Post
                    hop droping 5 lbs wasnt hard for him.. he fought taylor at 160 in dec 2005.. and he fought calzaghe at 173 last year... and he fought winky in 07 at the same 170 limit...

                    shane hasnt fought at under 140 since 1999/2000!!
                    It doesn't matter. He's not even a 154 pounder. As what Merchant said his best weight could've been 140. As what Mosley said If I can make 140 and fight for Pacquiao's lineal belt and his own division for legacy why would I fight at a catchweight? Mosley knows what he's doing.

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                    • Ben Thompson: What's going on bro? How you doing?

                      Shane Mosley: I'm doing good, doing good!

                      BT: So I hear you're dropping a bombshell. You want to go down to 140?

                      SM: Yeah. I'm going down to 140 and I want to fight Pacquiao for his belt because that's a belt I had never won. I have never won the jr. welterweight belt before. Also, at the same time, I can pick up the pound-for-pound belt. I believe I can make the weight so let's do it! There should be no 143, 141, 142 or all this other stuff. I'm going to 140 and fighting at his weight.

                      BT: The last time I checked, you had told Richard that you weren't going to pursue a Pacquiao fight anymore and you were pretty much targeting anyone else in the division. What prompted the sudden change of heart?

                      SM: Well, I thought about my legacy and my history. I think that me being willing to fight and the only thing that stands between us is 143 or 144 and we're going back and forth and he's playing games with Cotto...well, Bob Arum is I should say...Bob Arum is at it again I heard (laughing). But they're playing games and going back and forth. I'm like, well, if I can go to 143, I might as well just go to 140 and win the belt that I never won. It makes more sense. It's a historical thing and I'm coming to reclaim what's rightfully mine!

                      BT: It's been a while since you fought that low in weight. You gotta go back to before the first Oscar fight. That was a whlie ago. Is their any concern at all about making the weight or, maybe not so much about making the weight, but making the weight and having to fight Manny Pacquiao for the first time at that weight?

                      SM: This is what I want to prove to fans. That I am the best fighter out here today. I'm pound-for-pound the best. I want the fighters, the fans and everyone to know this. So when I go down there and I beat Pacquiao at 140, the bonus for me is winning the 140-pound title. It's not just fighting Manny Pacquiao, but winning the title at 140. I skipped over 140. If I'm going to go down to 143, I might as well go down to 140 and fight him for the belt that I never got. That makes it even better. I'm excited and I'm ready to get started. I'm ready for him to say, "yes, let's go ahead and do it" and let's fight. I mean, there should be no other excuses. There should be no hold-ups for Bob Arum or nobody. I hear now that Bob Arum put out, and I never heard of this, this is the first time I'm hearing, but I'm going to fight Clottey in November and it's already a done deal? So many people are lying now. Mayweather is making up lies. Bob Arum, everybody is lying. I'm the only one stepping up to the plate willing to do something, willing to fight, willing to give the fans what they want, a great fight. I'm the only one stepping up.

                      BT: It seems like you are the only one stepping up because everyone else is always ducking and dodging and...

                      SM: (Cutting in) Everybody is ducking and dodging and trying to choose and pick and all this stuff. I'm stepping up to the plate.

                      BT: Honestly, I can't see how Manny Pacquiao could refuse fighting you. You're making him an offer that he just can't refuse.

                      SM: It's not like I'm going to try and come in there and come in overweight because I want to be like 142. It's not like I'm going to come in overweight because I want to win the belt. You have to be 140 to win the belt; to actually win the jr. welterweight title. I have to make that weight to be the champion at jr. welterweight and that's what I want.

                      BT: Yeah, at one point, I think even Freddie Roach said he'd be willing to have Manny fight you, but you'd have to come down to 143...

                      SM: (Cutting in) Now I'm going to 140!

                      BT: Is there anything that would make you believe they would turn that down? Like I said, that's basically an offer they can't refuse.

                      SM: I mean, if they turn that down, then...people should know Sugar Shane is willing to fight anybody and he's willing to do what it takes to be recognized and considered the best fighter. I want them to know that this is my era.

                      BT: I would think that Manny Pacquiao would be more than willing. Manny Pacquiao is a warrior in the ring and he'll fight anyone...

                      SM: (Cutting in) I think he should fight me at 147, but you know what, it's okay, I'll fight you at 140! That'll make Bob Arum happy and it'll make Freddie Roach happy.

                      BT: Do you think Bob Arum is the only person holding this fight up?

                      SM: Yes! Bob Arum is holding it up. For him to put out a release, something crazy saying that a deal is almost made with me and Clottey is so ridiculous. I never even heard of that. This is so crazy. I never even thought about fighting...why would I fight Clottey? Well, I thought he would beat Cotto, but, I mean, if you had him losing, it was a close fight with him and Cotto. Both fights don't really make sense for Manny Pacquiao or me. Cotto don't make sense for Pacquiao. Clottey don't make sesne for me. Me and Manny Paquiao makes sense.

                      BT: You hadn't even heard of a potential Clottey fight?

                      SM: I hadn't even heard of a Clottey fight. It wasn't even mentioned to me. The fight that was mentioned to me was me and Andre Berto. That was the fight that was mentioned to me. I didn't even know Clottey was in the picture. Somebody just texted me and said, "Oh, you're fighting Clottey?" Clottey? What? I never even heard of that. That was so crazy to me. Bob Arum puts it out to the media like that because he's trying to take the heat off of Cotto not being able to make the weight. So he's trying to eliminate me by saying, "Oh, he's going to fight Clottey," so Pacquiao has to fight Cotto. He's trying to manipulate Pacquiao and Cotto once again. Lying again. Tryng to manipulate them.

                      BT: I know that Pacquiao's lawyer came out a couple days ago saying that they were hoping Cotto would come down to 143 and Bob Arum came out and said that it's not true and the fight was going to be at 145...

                      SM: (Cutting in) He can't make it! He can not make 143. He can barely make 145. He might not be able to make 145. I'm going to do them one better. I'm going to 140! I want the title at 140! I want the belt! Let's get this on and get the party started. I'm ready to make the sacrifice once again to get down to 140 or whatever it is. I used to make a big sacrifice to get to lightweight. I know how to make the weight. I know how to get down there and get to the weight and be strong so I can do it one more time to fight Pacquiao. It's a historical fight. It's for history. It's a big fight for the fans and for everybody.

                      BT: Again, I don't see how he could turn this down. Even with the purse split, you already said you'd be willing to give him what he wants. Now you're giving him the weight that he wants. Everything that Manny Pacquiao wants, he's getting with Sugar Shane Mosley so...

                      SM: (Cutting in) Well, he said we're doing it at 60/40 or whatever the purse was. I know I kind of backed off of it, but now, I'm going to be fighting for his belt. He's the champion so he's going to get more and I've got no problem with that. Let's just get this on. I'll go ahead and do my thing to Pacquiao and then I'll go get Mayweather, corner him, make him fight and then whoever else.

                      BT: I gotta admit, unlike a lot of fighters out there, you're one of the only ones who is truly concerned about legacy. Money's not an issue and you just want to fight the best. That's extemely hard to come by these days and I just gotta commend you for that bro. It's amazing what you've done in your career and even now, you're still willing to give in to all of the demands that Manny Pacquiao wants. If they turn this down, I'll be dumbfounded and it'll clearly be an issue of Bob Arum wanting to make the fight himself to keep all the money for himself in my opinion.

                      SM: Yeah, Mayweather said the same thing, even though he lies a lot. He tells a lot of lies a lot, but he knows that; that Bob Arum is just trying to keep all the money. Bob Arum wants all the money and he's lying basically to Pacquiao and Cotto...well, to Pacquiao actually because he's telling him that nobody wants to fight you and Shane won't come down...no! I'm coming down to 140!

                      BT: I can't even picture Sugar Shane Mosley coming down to 140. That would be an amazing feat to come down and...

                      SM: (Cutting in) It's historical because it's my belt that I didn't get. It was the belt that was left behind and it's the belt that I want!

                      BT: Well, it's the fight that the fans want. We put a poll up on our site and I think it was like 58% of the fans preferred for Manny Pacquiao to fight you over Miguel Cotto.

                      SM: Well, let them know that Sugar Shane is trying to make it happen.

                      BT: Anything else you want to say in closing Champ?

                      SM: Like I said, I'm fighting for my fans, I'm fighting for my legacy and I'm fighting to the best!

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                      Damn. Mosley got balls of steel. I don't see how Pac can turn this down without losing all his credibility. Mosley is throwing himself at Pac's feet. Pac has no choice but to take this offer.
                      Last edited by Maidana vs Rios; 07-18-2009, 02:27 AM.

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