Was Lewis stronger than Foreman?

[Eken]

Was Lewis stronger than Foreman? Hell no!

[J !]

Lennox hit like a pansy. Because he's british, that's all their is to it.

a brit who took all your tough US of A big men to school.

eat that and dont be so bitter.

****** post.

[Lol999]

[QUOTE=JPW]a brit who took all your tough US of A big men to school.

LMFAO! Jesus, we only get one heavyweight champ a century, thank god I was around to see it!

Lol

[J !]

BRUNO BEAT MCALL DONT FORGET TENUOUS I KNOW BUT....
AND DOESNT AUDLEY HOLD THE WBF

[tyson]

Mike was very quick in his prime but had surprisingly little strength for a heavyweight. Holyfield was a small heavyweight and McNeely a downright awful one and they both manhandled him in the clinches. Honestly, I think just about every man near Tyson's weight was competitive with him in the clinches and most tied him up at will.

I've heard Tyson benches around 450 lbs, but his functional strength is much lower than that number would indicate.

On the subject of Foreman, I recall reading in his autobiography that Foreman's guys did a publicity photo shoot where five or six very strong men helped hoist a young cow onto Foreman's shoulders. The idea was that these guys would be out of the shot, assisting Foreman and so it would look like he was holding up this massive animal by himself. Well apparently one of them let go and the others followed suit until Big George really was just carrying a cow on his shoulders. I think it weighed in the 600-700 lb realm. Some hardcore lifting fans might say "I know many powerlifters who squat with 600+ lbs on their shoulders." To that I would answer a.) Foreman didn't even lift weights while those heavy squatters are elite weightlifting athletes and b.) Those 600 pounds are carefully balanced on a lifter's shoulders by a bar while this cow would just kind of hanging there.

The point is, Foreman was rediculously strong. I don't care how much Lewis weighed, I don't see him carrying a friggin cow on his shoulders.

Other really strong heavyweight boxers...

Tex Cobb (Holmes once said that Shavers hit like he was from another planet but that Tex Cobb was the strongest mother he ever faced in the ring)

George Chuvalo (really strong in the clinches)

Jess Willard (Hoisted 600 lb. bales of hay on his farm and did strongman work in circuses)

Aside from great strength, these guys also had some of the best chins in heavyweight history.

As of Tyson's strenght in clinches and push-offs, I think that Tyson's stance made him easy to push off balance, which leads to him looking weak.
George Chuvalo said that if Tyson had better balance, he would have been a better fighter, with more leverage behind his punches. And he thought that Tyson was lazy in clinches, not bothering to fight back, or try to land some short punches when somebody clinched him.

When it comes to Lewis, I really do belive that he's much stronger than it appears. One fighter said (maybe Frank Bruno, don't remember) that when Lewis blocked his punches, it felt like hitting on a brick wall. He was just so immensly strong.
Looking at the wrestling match he had with Rahman on the press conference, I reckon Rahman really got to feel Lewis' strenght before he decided to run away...

However, when it comes to punching power, I belive there's two types of punching power;
one type that's explosive and fast (like Tyson's)
and one where there's just massive strenght and force behind (like Foreman's)

When you compare those, you might find that the explosive version has a tendency to knock people out cold, like a lightning from blue sky,
and the massive, brute force kind simply forces people down or sends them sprawling across the ring.
Foreman wiped the floor with Frazier, but didn't knock him out cold, like I think Lewis would have done if he had hit him clean.
But I don't think Lewis' punches would force Frazier to back down, or send him backwards, so I reckon there's gotta be two kinds of power.

Why bother to compare those? Off course it's easier for Foreman to push-punch the heavybag in bigger motions than it is for Tyson who stagger the punches at impact, but you can't say that the punches are harder.

In measurement, maybe Foreman's punches hits with more pounds behind them, and Tyson/Lewis hits with more mph...?
Just a thought, as I've heard Tyson got measured to 800kg at 60 km/h... (and if Foreman managed, say, 1000kg at 40 km/h...) ?

[Mr. Ryan]

George Foreman is simply the strongest fighter who ever lived.

[GasPed]

When it comes to Lewis, I really do belive that he's much stronger than it appears. One fighter said (maybe Frank Bruno, don't remember) that when Lewis blocked his punches, it felt like hitting on a brick wall. He was just so immensly strong.
Looking at the wrestling match he had with Rahman on the press conference, I reckon Rahman really got to feel Lewis' strenght before he decided to run away...

I absolutely agree with you here. Almost every fighter that Lewis ever fought from Tyson, VK, Tua, and Botha to people like Mason and McCrory - the one thing they all brought up was not his punching power or skills (though they mention it on occasion), it's his physical strength. The man was huge and strong for his size to boot. He completely manhandled 6'7" 250 lb Michael Grant (who looked like a body builder), and bullied him into that KO2. As strong as Big George was (and he was very strong), I don't see him doing anything like that. But I do give Foreman the edge (a slight one) in punching power...

[.::EnRiQuE::.]

the only reason lennox's power may SEEM to be more than foreman's was because lennox sets his punches up. his rand hand hits hardest after blinding his opponent with a jab in da face. for overall one punch ko power iits foreman without a doubt.