If mike tyson stayed with rooney and retired with a record of 80 - 0 ?.

[jack_the_rippuh]

Alright, your credibility is restored. And now I can admit that this was pretty funny.

Sounds like a line from a video game


If he would have retired 80-0 and beat everyone the Heavyweight division had to offer at their best...of course he would have been ranked #1.

[jabsRstiff]

Sounds like a line from a video game


If he would have retired 80-0 and beat everyone the Heavyweight division had to offer at their best...of course he would have been ranked #1.

& the same could be said of Tex Cobb, "Too Tall" Jones, John Lennon, & Woody ****in' Allen.

[jack_the_rippuh]

& the same could be said of Tex Cobb, "Too Tall" Jones, John Lennon, & Woody ****in' Allen.

Yeah, but in Tyson's time in the heavyweight division there was some talent..

[jabsRstiff]

****.....

John Lennon woulda been fighting during the Ali, Frazier, Foreman era.....
Imagine if he'd beaten all those guys, convincingly....in his first 79 fights.....& then got his 80th win by KOing Larry Holmes ?

How could you not think John Lennon was the greatest fighter ever ?

[jedihillis]

THere were a lot of things that caused Mike to implode. I think that losing Micky Rooney was one of them. But, his life has just been one big screw up after another.

[jabsRstiff]

THere were a lot of things that caused Mike to implode. I think that losing Micky Rooney was one of them. But, his life has just been one big screw up after another.

Yeah....too bad Mike lost Mickey Rooney.
Tyson always needed a good song & dance man to get him through the tough times.

[joeboxer]

If Tyson had gone 80-0, I still wouldn't put him above Ali. I can't explain why, I have no argument to back this up, I just wouldn't do it.

[boxernyc]

If Tyson had gone 80-0, I still wouldn't put him above Ali. I can't explain why, I have no argument to back this up, I just wouldn't do it.

I think the reason is that it would be more likely for Ali to have gone 80-0 than Tyson. Neither is possible. That is why Ali is better and there are no set of circumstances barring alternate realities under which anyone considers Tyson better than Ali.

[+= El Jefe=+]

Amen

I'm not going to be the one to rip on you, but you will surely get people who will.

Talent wasn't Mike's problem either. It was character. He imploded. It was bound to happen too no matter who trained him. He couldn't handle success.

amen to that
i could not have said it better
it was not the tainer
ITS MIKE

[leff]

Of course he would be ranked the best ever unless he had real ****ty competition.