Juan "Juanma" Manuel Lopez vs. Rafael Marquez

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Oscar has a **** load more experience then Juanma does now and is completely different boxers, we don't know how Juanma can handle Vazquez or Marquez's power, Juanma isn't the BEST defensive fighter out there, you think he can handle getting hit like he did against Gerry with either one of those guys? No, after PDL Juanma has yet to face a power puncher, Vazquez and Marquez are WAY better boxers and not as predictable as PDL, so do you think he would be able to survive getting hit by the BOMBS Vazquez and Marquez throw?

First he is a better defensive fighter than He showed in the Peņalosa fight. He let all out against Peņalosa and didnt care about getting tagged because he knew Gerry couldnt hurt him. Watch how he didnt went crazy against PDL and he started circling and counter punching De Leon, becaus ehe knew DL have Power. Lopez adapts to his opponents styles, I bet you he wont get hit against eithe rlike he did against gerry.

And yes I believe he can take bombs form those 2, but that aint proven yet, we ahve to wait on that!!!

[LilGizmo562]

First he is a better defensive fighter than He showed in the Peņalosa fight. He let all out against Peņalosa and didnt care about getting tagged because he knew Gerry couldnt hurt him. Watch how he didnt went crazy against PDL and he started circling and counter punching De Leon, becaus ehe knew DL have Power. Lopez adapts to his opponents styles, I bet you he wont get hit against eithe rlike he did against gerry.

And yes I believe he can take bombs form those 2, but that aint proven yet, we ahve to wait on that!!!

Ok something we can agree on, he needs to face a power puncher to see how well his chin holds up and the thing is, Vazquez and Marquez are WAY better boxers then Gerry and PDL, so they should and will land more on Juanma, but if he can take their power, is yet to be seen.

[Eaner0919]

You are a *******, assuming ****, without even asking.

Yes I saw the fight and yes I knew the guy was a straight up bum. Marquez look kind of sluggish and out of rythim, I think it had more to do wth the layoff than with being shot. Again his next fight will tell us where he is at.

Again, STFU with yoyr ****** "Your a Nuthugger bla bla bla" crap!

You cant be calling those guys shot by assuming they are shot. How Manny wars have Manny endure, is he shot?

They may not be at their best, saying tehy are just is just finding a excuse for when they lose.

I may be an ******* but you are ******...about as ****** as dog **** but none the less.

you know damn well you went to youtube to find the fight so you can act like you know what you are talking about but lets be honest. You didn't see it, made a comment about it like Rafa demolished Mendoza when to be honest it was tit for tat against a guy who had no business reaching and tagging Rafa, landed a right, and night night.

why the next fight? because he had time off? well he has had long periods of time off and it never affected him. From the first Mabuza fight to the 2nd he took 9 months off and was just as effective in beating the brakes off of Mabuza.

simply put you cant hide flaws and age and right now Rafa has too much of both IMO to be considered what he once was. He is clearly not the same fighter who entered 122 with the likes of Mabuza and nowhere near the guy who went toe to toe with Izzy in their first fight.

he is shopworn simple as that.

and I am nowhere near calling either Izzy or Rafa shot so why dont you STFU with YOUR assumptions dumbass.

but they are indeed nowhere near what they were before they went into the trilogy and you know it. You are doing nothing more than propping their names up so it looks good for JuanMa. Nothing more

so while you sit there and say I am making excuses I can say that you indeed are making them much more than what they really are at this stage in their careers in order to boost JuanMa's shakey resume

[LilGizmo562]

I may be an ******* but you are ******...about as ****** as dog **** but none the less.

you know damn well you went to youtube to find the fight so you can act like you know what you are talking about but lets be honest. You didn't see it, made a comment about it like Rafa demolished Mendoza when to be honest it was tit for tat against a guy who had no business reaching and tagging Rafa, landed a right, and night night.

why the next fight? because he had time off? well he has had long periods of time off and it never affected him. From the first Mabuza fight to the 2nd he took 9 months off and was just as effective in beating the brakes off of Mabuza.

simply put you cant hide flaws and age and right now Rafa has too much of both IMO to be considered what he once was. He is clearly not the same fighter who entered 122 with the likes of Mabuza and nowhere near the guy who went toe to toe with Izzy in their first fight.

he is shopworn simple as that.

and I am nowhere near calling either Izzy or Rafa shot so why dont you STFU with YOUR assumptions dumbass.

but they are indeed nowhere near what they were before they went into the trilogy and you know it. You are doing nothing more than propping their names up so it looks good for JuanMa. Nothing more

so while you sit there and say I am making excuses I can say that you indeed are making them much more than what they really are at this stage in their careers in order to boost JuanMa's shakey resume

Completely agree, the Rafa that went into the ring with both of them, looked damn near unbeatable at that time...sad to see what the trilogy did to them, but will always be glad they did it for the fans.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

I may be an ******* but you are ******...about as ****** as dog **** but none the less.

you know damn well you went to youtube to find the fight so you can act like you know what you are talking about but lets be honest. You didn't see it, made a comment about it like Rafa demolished Mendoza when to be honest it was tit for tat against a guy who had no business reaching and tagging Rafa, landed a right, and night night.

why the next fight? because he had time off? well he has had long periods of time off and it never affected him. From the first Mabuza fight to the 2nd he took 9 months off and was just as effective in beating the brakes off of Mabuza.

simply put you cant hide flaws and age and right now Rafa has too much of both IMO to be considered what he once was. He is clearly not the same fighter who entered 122 with the likes of Mabuza and nowhere near the guy who went toe to toe with Izzy in their first fight.

he is shopworn simple as that.

and I am nowhere near calling either Izzy or Rafa shot so why dont you STFU with YOUR assumptions dumbass.

but they are indeed nowhere near what they were before they went into the trilogy and you know it. You are doing nothing more than propping their names up so it looks good for JuanMa. Nothing more

so while you sit there and say I am making excuses I can say that you indeed are making them much more than what they really are at this stage in their careers in order to boost JuanMa's shakey resume

Lokk jotto, go to the trhead about teh fight, the roudn by round thing and see who posted tehre.

again STFU and stop assuming **** you dont even know, **** off!!!!!!!!