Latest Ring Magazine P4P (7/12/2009): Darchinyan OUT, Paul Williams IN

[ИATAS]

caballero shoudlnt even be there in the first place. what the hell did that... who the hell did that guy beat to be top 10 period.

caballero beat Steve Molitor, who was ranked in the top 10 pound 4 pound at the time. That's how he got up there, along with unifying the division and his title defenses.

The only person you can really make a case for not belonging there is Nonito.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

caballero beat Steve Molitor, who was ranked in the top 10 pound 4 pound at the time. That's how he got up there.

Steve Molitor a Top 10 p4P? LAMO jajajajajajajaja

Are you joking?

I know he was a top 10 SBW, but P4P?????? My ass!!!!!!!!

[BennyST]

Just to put it in perspective: Donaire, and this is not a big diss because he is without doubt one of my favourite fighter at the moment and should have a huge career ahead of him and will possible even top the P4P rankings at some point in the future, but, he has beaten only one champion in his whole career of twenty fights. Only one. That also happened to be now two years ago!

Cabellero in that same time, just the last two years, unified the titles against the long time undefeated Steve Molitor (six defenses of his title over three years) as well as beat long time WBA SFW champion Lorenzo Parra, former champion Mauricio Pastrana along with top contenders Jeffrey Mathebula, Ricardo Castillo and Jorge Lacierva. Before that he had beaten the champion in that huge blowout in three rounds after his huge FOTY against Monshipour along with beating former world champion champions Daniel Ponce De Leon, Jose Valbueno, and Yober Ortega.

Do they really compare now? Donaire will eventually be much better than Caballero, but that;'s just ridiculous having him in there now. There are literally ten more deserving champions. He's an amazing prospect but as of yet has done nothing close to warrant being in the top P4P rankings over other long time champions.

[ИATAS]

Steve Molitor a Top 10 p4P? LAMO jajajajajajajaja

Are you joking?

I know he was a top 10 SBW, but P4P?????? My ass!!!!!!!!

If I remember correctly he very briefly entered the top 10 just prior to getting his ass kicked by caballero. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't have a source to back that up.

[nachorjj]

with out cotto is OK

[street bully]

Darch shouldn't have been dropped. Pwill shouldn't be there, at least not til he gets 1 more big win.

Wiliams has done enough to make it. A little overdue if you ask me. Margarito, Quintana, Verno Phillips, and Winky Wright. Thats a helluva resume already. Matter of fact, I think it is a travesty that Caballero, and Donaire are infront of him.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

See post above for reply to this typically ignorant statement about a fighter you obviously know nothing about. Who would you put instead of Caballero and why? Who have they beaten that is better than what he has done?

so i guess the majority of p4p list other than ring magazine who dont have caballero are ignorant. saying a guy shouldnt be in the top 10 p4p because who's best win on his resume is ponce de leon & steve molitor both fights that i have seen is hardly a ignorant statement. its just a boxing opinion. if u bothered to read my p4p list opinion i posted instead of jumping in with your quick emo warrior statement u would know who i have in instead of caballero who is over six feet tall & fighting in 122 divsion with 2 losses.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

If I remember correctly he very briefly entered the top 10 just prior to getting his ass kicked by caballero. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't have a source to back that up.

Its cool I just dont remember seen him in the p4P top 10!!!!!!!

Wiliams has done enough to make it. A little overdue if you ask me. Margarito, Quintana, Verno Phillips, and Winky Wright. Thats a helluva resume already. Matter of fact, I think it is a travesty that Caballero, and Donaire are infront of him.

Co sign, Jack ass.

Williams have a decent resume, and teh weight jumping cant be overlooked!!

And I agree that Caballero and Donaire in front of him is ridiculous!!!!!

[nouseforaname]

Vasquez & Rafa have been inactive for a very long time, the last Rafa fight was a joke, Caballero hasn't done enough, and where the f**k is Chad Dawson in here? and if you have Caballero you might as well put Wlad in here too

[Gettin Jiggy]

war willams! i really have my douts at rafael marquez being in there. dawson should take his place!