I dont condone murder, and I am not saying what Gatti's wife did was right, BUT...

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  • Dan...
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    #71
    Originally posted by ..Calderon...
    Yeah, because IF HE DID beat her, it's not important. He's a legend, so he shouldn't be talked bad about.

    Once again, I have a feeling that if he was your step dad and he punched the **** out of your mother, you'd have a different take on whether him being a legend mattered.

    Once again, not saying he did it.
    The man has just died. He was a modern legend to so many boxing fans. I've lost count of how many times of watched the Ward fights and the Ruelas fight.

    Can we not just mourn a man who entertained us at the expense of his own health for a few ***n days before ppl start calling him an animal and saying he deserved to be brutally murdered?

    Personally, I wouldn't have thought that was too much to ask.

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    • THe TRiNiTY
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      #72
      Originally posted by Dan...
      The man has just died. He was a modern legend to so many boxing fans. I've lost count of how many times of watched the Ward fights and the Ruelas fight.

      Can we not just mourn a man who entertained us at the expense of his own health for a few ***n days before ppl start calling him an animal and saying he deserved to be brutally murdered?

      Personally, I wouldn't have thought that was too much to ask.
      Well, why would you come into a thread like this, if you were REALLY mourning the loss?

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      • paul750
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        #73
        Originally posted by ..Calderon...
        You have to factor in emotions. Everyone assumes a situation is SOOOO cut in dry...... When they're not in it. She probably loved him for some time, and if he did beat her, she might have stayed. Abused women tend to do that, because women who fall into that, tned to submit everything to the person their with. They forgive, because they hold onto the good parts. Does that make her ******? Yes, it does. And people in love do a lot of ****** ****.

        You can't say that you know he didn't beat her. Just like no one can say they know he did. BUt bruises don't really mean anything. Guys throw oranges at women, because they hurt like hell, but don't leave bruises. Not sayig he did that, but.. I'm not saying he didn't.

        Sports fans seem to be so able to believe the person they enjoyed watching just because they're favorites of theirs.

        Ridiculous. Athletes do ****ed up ****, and sometimes they get what is coming to them in return. Not saying he beat her, but if he did, to me it's fair game.
        Oh I know there are lots of different aspects to consider, but in legal terms if her life was not in danger she's in deep ****. I just find it less understandable in 2009, where women don't have to stay. You have to try to paint a picture of how much torture was involved and whether the person had options, and whether her life was on the line, when you look at it both legally and morally. It must be a terrible thing to suffer, but if there's a choice there for the woman to leave, it's hard to really justify it.

        So like I said, it depends on the situation. But the bottom line is if her life wasn't on the line and she made a calculated decision to murder him, then there's not much defence for that.

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        • BOLLOCKS
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          #74
          Originally posted by Johnny Rebel
          Gatti wasn't "beating" his wife, that's ridiculous. If he was then she would've had black eyes, a broken nose and been bruised up. Married couples get in heated arguments that sometimes gets a little over the top (especially when they're drunk) with insults, pushing and slapping (yes women also slap and scratch men during fights) which is FAR from being "beaten" or abused to the point of justifying or even excusing a homicide...
          I agree, Where are the pics showing how beat up she got, Beezy most likely was a gold digger.

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          • boxaholic
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            #75
            Originally posted by ..Calderon...
            You can remember him by whatever you want. I didn't say he did or didn't beat her. What I said is, IF you beat someone, you have to be prepared for the reaction you might get.

            For the record, if he was gracious in the ring, that's nice. But, if I KNEW he beat his wife, I wouldn't give a ****. He'd still be a *****, and I still wouldn't respect him. Once again, not saying he did it. I'm speaking hypothetically.

            Do I know he did it or didn't? No. And neither do you.

            It's so easy for you to say that she should have just left. Like normal people would have. Well, he should have not beat a woman, like normal people. Things happen. And she felt abused and trapped, if the accusations are accurate. You've never been a woman, and your husbands never beat you, so you don't know what you're talking about. Neither do I, in that sense, but that's what I'd have to assume that feels like.

            Don't get personal? ****, life is personal. Someone lays a hand on my sister, they get one right between the eyes. All there is to it.
            Thats where your wrong. I got arrested 3 years ago for assault with a deadly weapon for beating on my sister now ex husband. I flew out cross country met up with him and when I asked him why he has been beating on my sister he was mad at her for telling me. So I did alot more than putting one between the eyes. After that my sister left him and now she is happily married. I would do the same thing in a minute. Even though My record is tarnished forever. So I been there and done that. Domestic Violence is wrong. If that was the case she should have left him.

            The man just got killed by his wife. Everyone has problems and nobody on this board would condone Domestic Violence. Like the late great Tupac Shakur put it "ONly god can judge"

            Let Gatti Rest In Peace.

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            • RightCross94
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              #76
              Originally posted by HTownTexan
              If Gatti did beat her up, like it was reported on BS a while back, and if he did argue with her and throw her down to the street in public, and cause injuries to her arm and chin, i can damn near promise you, that this was not the second time this thing has happened. On top of that he got a taxi ride home and left her to walk, that is some ******* **** to do....

              My dad used to whoop the **** out of my mom..... This isnt just something that happens once and that is it.... This is a constant and chronic problem that people have.... My mom flipped just like Gatti's wife, and broke my dad's ribs....

              And sometimes, as in this case, she couldnt take anymore.... People have a limit... Seems like there were some skeletons in the closet.....

              Its like a kid in school that gets picked on by a bully constantly.... Finally, they have enough... Thats what I think happened here....

              Again, I am not saying this was right, and I dont wish death on anybody.... But I think that Gatti's wife had reached her limit and couldnt take it anymore... Was it right to kill Arturo?? HELL NO... But once someone gets pushed to the limit time after time, they finally go over the edge...
              you are 110% right

              this definitely wouldnt have been the first time he abused her, it has probbaly been going on for ages. Domestic violence builds up over a while and eventually someone snaps and the **** hits the fan

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              • RightCross94
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                #77
                Originally posted by Kenny Blankenship
                There's a big difference between pushing someone to the ground and beating them.

                Some of the mental midgets on this forum should try and grasp that...including the thread starter.

                One of the above deserves retribution with extreme prejudice...the other doesn't.
                that was probably just one thing in a whole line of **** he did to her........

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by HTownTexan
                  If Gatti did beat her up, like it was reported on BS a while back, and if he did argue with her and throw her down to the street in public, and cause injuries to her arm and chin, i can damn near promise you, that this was not the second time this thing has happened. On top of that he got a taxi ride home and left her to walk, that is some ******* **** to do....

                  My dad used to whoop the **** out of my mom..... This isnt just something that happens once and that is it.... This is a constant and chronic problem that people have.... My mom flipped just like Gatti's wife, and broke my dad's ribs....

                  And sometimes, as in this case, she couldnt take anymore.... People have a limit... Seems like there were some skeletons in the closet.....

                  Its like a kid in school that gets picked on by a bully constantly.... Finally, they have enough... Thats what I think happened here....

                  Again, I am not saying this was right, and I dont wish death on anybody.... But I think that Gatti's wife had reached her limit and couldnt take it anymore... Was it right to kill Arturo?? HELL NO... But once someone gets pushed to the limit time after time, they finally go over the edge...
                  Good stuff buddy!!!!!!!!!!

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                  • MindBat
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by larrysmith
                    why cant people just leave????
                    Many factors are involved, but it's usually due to a giant fear of loss.

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                    • Dan...
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by ..Calderon...
                      Well, why would you come into a thread like this, if you were REALLY mourning the loss?
                      What, so now everyone should only enter threads that promote an idea which they are in full agreement with?

                      This is a forum. I came in here to say that I disagreed with the TS.

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