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  • #61
    Originally posted by The Drogba View Post
    I am American. Believe what you want, since I can't change your view
    Make up your mind, one minute you claim your an Abo Aussie and the next you're an African American.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by The Drogba View Post
      What do you mean size?? Pacman was willingly to fight Margarito why not Williams. Why are people suddenly changing their tune? If you make weight you make weight
      There comes a point where you have to factor in things other than weight -- first of all, massive reach and height advantages. You're talking about putting a guy with 82" reach against a guy with a 67" reach. It's ridiculous. Secondly, risk vs. reward. Williams can't sell tickets. What credit does Williams get for beating Pacquiao anyway? NONE!

      Williams needs to go after Pavlik or tempt Dawson down to 168. Fight Kessler, fight Froch, Abraham, Bute, etc.



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      • #63
        Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
        Williams is decent but he needs to pick on people his own size.
        Not his problem, Paul has called out every top fighter from 147-168.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
          There comes a point where you have to factor in things other than weight -- first of all, massive reach and height advantages. You're talking about putting a guy with 82" reach against a guy with a 67" reach. It's ridiculous. Secondly, risk vs. reward. Williams can't sell tickets. What credit does Williams get for beating Pacquiao anyway? NONE!

          Williams needs to go after Pavlik or tempt Dawson down to 168. Fight Kessler, fight Froch, Abraham, Bute, etc.
          Unfourtantely for your argument....boxing doesnt.

          Its about what you weigh..........not how tall you are.

          Chico and Hearns dissagree.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Burner, ATG View Post
            Unfourtantely for your argument....boxing doesnt.

            Its about what you weigh..........not how tall you are.

            Chico and Hearns dissagree.
            Oh god, not you again.



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            • #66
              Originally posted by The Drogba View Post
              JMM is Pacman’s left over. When he beat Pacman

              Aren’t Oscar/Hatton Floyd’s leftovers


              Pacman ducks Americans

              hah, show me proof when JMM beat Pacman, thought so wannabe american, your green card is expiring soon.


              Ducking americans, is that all you have?? weeeak

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              • #67
                Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
                Oh god, not you again.
                Boxing has weight classes.....not height classes.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Dubious-Dutch View Post
                  Make up your mind, one minute you claim your an Abo Aussie and the next you're an African American.
                  Nice lie. I like how you are distorting the facts

                  Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
                  There comes a point where you have to factor in things other than weight -- first of all, massive reach and height advantages. You're talking about putting a guy with 82" reach against a guy with a 67" reach. It's ridiculous. Secondly, risk vs. reward. Williams can't sell tickets. What credit does Williams get for beating Pacquiao anyway? NONE!

                  Williams needs to go after Pavlik or tempt Dawson down to 168. Fight Kessler, fight Froch, Abraham, Bute, etc.
                  Williams could be 7’1 and reach of 110, but if he made weight there should be no excuses. Williams doesn't have to fight at 168, if he wants to fight at 147 it's his choice. Pacman is not allowed to duck American fighters because of height or reach. AA fighters usually have great reach, and Pacman knows this

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Gift Of Gab View Post
                    Not his problem, Paul has called out every top fighter from 147-168.
                    Yes, I agree, it's not his fault, but he should focus on fighting at least legit Welters, Jr. Middles, Middles and possibly Super Middles. Not guys who barely even stepped past lightweight until recently. He would get laughed at if he fought Pacquiao, not given credit.



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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by shogunn View Post
                      hah, show me proof when JMM beat Pacman, thought so wannabe american, your green card is expiring soon.


                      Ducking americans, is that all you have?? weeeak
                      Pinoy’s are the biggest wannabes in the world. They claim to be Pacific Islander and claim to be Spanish. And sometimes claim to be Americans. But they don’t like being called Asian


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                      Most boxing experts had Marquez winning over Pacquiao:

                      - Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
                      - Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
                      - Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
                      - Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
                      - Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
                      - Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
                      - Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
                      - Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
                      - Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
                      - Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
                      - Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
                      - Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
                      - Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
                      - DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
                      - Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
                      - Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
                      - Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
                      - Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
                      - Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
                      - Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
                      - Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
                      - William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
                      - Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
                      - Bert Sugar:Marquez
                      - Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
                      - Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
                      - Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
                      - Graham Houston, FightWriter.com also picked Marquez



                      Pacquiao wins the vacant Ring Magazine jr. lightweight world title. Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquiao but did not believe he won the fight.

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