Boxing Corruption: Should Paul Thomas be banned?

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  • BetterCallSaul
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    #11
    Originally posted by eazy_mas
    so in America it doesnt happen does it?

    I think most of pro sport has alot of corruption from steriod us to bribing ref....etc

    It not only boxing.

    as well as I wont be suprise if any fighter is caught using steriods including the top dogs like Mayweather, Pac, Cotto....etc


    There is alot of money to be made. A loss is very damaging to the fighters career so there is alot of pressure to do that.
    Good point.

    Bribery and corruption is just as likely to take place in the U.S. Especially in huge money, betting centre's, like Las Vegas. We shouldn't point the finger at any single particular nation. It's a global sport, and a global problem.

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      #12
      Originally posted by timba1988
      His event records have two things that stike me. He has judged on a lot of Frank Warren and Universum events.

      Definately dodgy.
      His scorecard on M'Baye vs. Kotelnik was definitely dodgy.

      http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph...=Fight:1170576

      He was the one who had M'Baye, a Frank Warren fighter, winning. That fight was scored a draw, even though Kotelnik schooled M'Baye. That was one of the worst robberies you'll ever see.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Chr0nic
        he's the genius that voted in the calzaghe-reid fight

        Roy Francis | judge: Robert Byrd 116-111 | judge: John Duggan 116-111 | judge: Paul Thomas 111-116
        Calzaghe clearly won that fight. Thomas is definitely crooked.

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          #14
          Originally posted by ~Tunney
          His scorecard on M'Baye vs. Kotelnik was definitely dodgy.

          http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph...=Fight:1170576

          He was the one who had M'Baye, a Frank Warren fighter, winning. That fight was scored a draw, even though Kotelnik schooled M'Baye. That was one of the worst robberies you'll ever see.
          Originally posted by ~Tunney
          Calzaghe clearly won that fight. Thomas is definitely crooked.
          After looking at his judging, it is very inconsistent. He could just be a terrible judge of the sport.

          I mean, in the M' Baye - Kotelnik fight, one is a Frank Warren fighter, and one is a Universum fighter. He has been favourable to both promoters fighters prior, and after this fight took place. And in the Calzaghe - Reid fight, he had Reid winning, yet Calzaghe is the Frank Warren fighter. Weird indeed.

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            #15
            Originally posted by eazy_mas
            so in America it doesnt happen does it?

            I think most of pro sport has alot of corruption from steriod us to bribing ref....etc

            It not only boxing.

            as well as I wont be suprise if any fighter is caught using steriods including the top dogs like Mayweather, Pac, Cotto....etc


            There is alot of money to be made. A loss is very damaging to the fighters career so there is alot of pressure to do that.
            I'd say it's less likely, considering the increased risk and penalties there are over here. It has gotten better in recent years, but Germany has definitely been sort of an epicenter for robberies.

            Steroids isn't as prevalent in boxing as it's been in other sports. The fighters that have tested positive for steroids don't have a good track record while on it. Their performances while on it haven't been something where it encourages other boxers to take the risk.

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              #16
              Originally posted by timba1988
              After looking at his judging, it is very inconsistent. He could just be a terrible judge of the sport.

              I mean, in the M' Baye - Kotelnik fight, one is a Frank Warren fighter, and one is a Universum fighter.
              Kotelnik didn't sign with Universum until after the Maidana fight. He previously had some small-time promoter, that's why he kept getting robbed.

              But yes, he favored Reid over Calzaghe, the Warren fighter. But that was ten years ago, maybe he was in Reid's promoter's pocket at that time.

              Or maybe he could just be a terrible judge.
              Last edited by The Hammer; 07-07-2009, 09:32 PM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by timba1988
                Good point.

                Bribery and corruption is just as likely to take place in the U.S. Especially in huge money, betting centre's, like Las Vegas. We shouldn't point the finger at any single particular nation. It's a global sport, and a global problem.
                The problem is that the main purpose organization made these sports like the olymipics, NFL, WC...etc it to bring nations together but it looks like they are tearing it apart.

                There was a case of a boxing ref who owned some ******** base and he have to us his influnce to help underdog fighter so the betting company get there money from him in an indirect way.

                People tend to forget Mosely steriod scandal I bet he knew what he was taking because there is no supplement you inject it to your stomach.

                As for Margarito wrapping.

                and that is just the beging of it.

                The sport that I could think of that is least corrupted is the one with not so much spotlight and attention like decathlone Bryan Clay is one of my idol sportman to be frank.

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                • mastersteve
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                  #18
                  Yes it happens a lot in America as well but it is not so obvious like Paul Thomas. His record speaks for itself. If the inconsistencies balanced out on both sides then you may have a point. But his crazy scoring is all favoring boxer of a particular

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                  • mastersteve
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                    #19
                    Paul Thomas may not judge a big fight again!

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                    • mastersteve
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                      #20
                      10-1 that he be banned in this forum!

                      at other pools the numbers are like 50-5

                      SO PAUL THOMAS SHOULD BE BANNED!

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