Did Ali cheat against Foreman?

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  • larry x
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    #11
    Originally posted by BrendanWoodside
    Jesus was an overated *** with a bad beard and was a halfasses carpenter
    green k.....cause i see you get what i mean

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    • street bully
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      #12
      Ali beat Foremans ass in that fight.

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      • street bully
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        #13
        Also he thumbed Ali's eye many times.

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        • knn
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          #14
          Originally posted by BrendanWoodside
          Jesus was an overated *** with a bad beard and was a halfasses carpenter
          You miss the point: Jesus was a convicted criminal. And no matter how much people praise Jesus words, the fact remains that he was a convicted criminal, who died the death penalty.

          The same applies to Ali: No matter how many people praise him, the fact remains that he was dirty fighting featherfist ("Dirty Clay").
          Last edited by knn; 06-30-2009, 03:13 PM.

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          • Deja_Vous
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            #15
            Originally posted by Oscar DeLaHoya
            he started clinching near the end of his career. but in his hay day you would never see him doing stuff like that
            That's not true.

            Ali was holding mofos heads down from the get-go.

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            • BattlingNelson
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              #16
              It might be illegal to hold Foreman's head when clinching but I didn't think it was to bad and it wasn't like Forman was a great infigher anyway. Still it's up to the ref to enforce the rules and he didn't see anything wrong.

              Foreman had a history of dirty fighting including wrestling and rabbit punching BTW and one of the punches in Ali's finishing combo appeared to land in the back of the head.

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              • TheGreatA
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                #17
                Technically it isn't but you'll find out that a lot of fighters "cheated" in victories.

                I thought Ali handled Foreman rather decisively and was on up on the judges' and my own scorecards when the KO came in the 8th round.

                Technically pushing and hitting a man while he is on the floor is a foul as well which is what Foreman did to Norton and Frazier but no one in their right mind would question these victories. Foreman did not blatantly break the rules and neither did Ali.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Sin City
                  no holding behind the head is not allowed.
                  he prob should have got some points deducted for it but the win came by KO
                  so it wouldn't have mattered.
                  Deducting points can change a fight since they stop using those tactics so they don't get dq'd.

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by knn
                    Clinching, rope-a-doping and waiting for the poison to set in was the only thing Ali could do.
                    also, Ali had to wait for the local voodoo shaman's curse to start kicking in... it takes a while for the chickens to die.

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                    • GJC
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by knn
                      You miss the point: Jesus was a convicted criminal. And no matter how much people praise Jesus words, the fact remains that he was a convicted criminal, who died the death penalty.
                      I'll give you credit you aim high
                      Forgetting the obvious Ali nonsense and pointing out I am not a religous man lets follow your train of thought here:

                      **** Germany bought in laws to persecute people such as ***s etc?
                      Now they were the law of the land at that time?
                      So anyone breaking those laws i.e. protecting/hiding ***s would be a criminal and so justifyably been sent to die in a concentration camp?

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