Nice read about Ortiz vs Maidana and HBO's 2009 "Prospects"

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • El Chicano
    Juan Hitter Quitter
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Feb 2007
    • 10997
    • 375
    • 378
    • 17,954

    #1

    Nice read about Ortiz vs Maidana and HBO's 2009 "Prospects"

    An excerpt from a Thomas Hauser article.

    So let’s look at the lessons to be learned in the wake of Ortiz-Maidana.

    At the start of 2009, HBO told boxing fans that the next generation of stars included Victor Ortiz, Alfredo Angulo, James Kirkland, and Robert Guerrero. All four were put in soft to build their reputations.

    Kirkland is now in jail. Angulo was exposed (and beaten) by Kermit Cintron. Guerrero begged out after being cut by an accidental head butt in a fight against 10-to-1 underdog Daud Yordan. Now, Ortiz has been knocked out.

    A television network has the power to give fighters exposure. A television network has the power to steer fighters to a particular promoter. A television network cannot (repeat, cannot) create stars.

    In boxing, stars create themselves. Very few people knew who Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, and Arturo Gatti were before HBO put them on Boxing After Dark a decade ago. But the public tuned in because they trusted HBO to deliver quality fights. And the fighters who delivered in those fights became stars.

    Instead of trying to anoint stars, HBO should create the next generation of stars by continually matching the best young prospects against the best young prospects (not against overmatched foes). If a fighter doesn’t want to go in tough, let him fight somewhere else for ten thousand dollars.

    Ortiz-Maidana was a great fight. It might not have been great for Ortiz or his manager or his promoter. But it was great entertainment for the viewers who watched it because Ortiz was in tough.

    So apply the lessons of Ortiz-Maidana to the future.

    HBO won’t televise another fight until August 22nd, when Paulie Malignaggi goes to Houston to take on Juan Diaz, the referee, and three judges. Let’s hope that, when the network finalizes its fall schedule, it demands competitive fights across the board.

    * * *

    Who would win a fight showcasing David Haye or Chris Arreola against Vitali or Wladimir Klitschko?

    Either Klitschko would be heavily favored.

    Okay. Who would win a fight between David Haye and Chris Arreola?

    Knowledgeable fight fans are evenly divided.

    So shouldn’t HBO press for Haye vs. Arreola? It would be an entertaining fight and the winner would emerge as a more credible challenger to either Klitschko than is now the case.
  • gingeralbino
    WAR MAGEE!!!
    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
    • Dec 2008
    • 7999
    • 224
    • 388
    • 20,405

    #2
    there's one vital ingrediant missing for that to happen - common sense.

    Comment

    • El Chicano
      Juan Hitter Quitter
      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
      • Feb 2007
      • 10997
      • 375
      • 378
      • 17,954

      #3
      Originally posted by gingeralbino
      there's one vital ingrediant missing for that to happen - common sense.
      What are you talking about?

      Comment

      • gingeralbino
        WAR MAGEE!!!
        Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
        • Dec 2008
        • 7999
        • 224
        • 388
        • 20,405

        #4
        Originally posted by Perro
        What are you talking about?
        I agree with pretty much everything in the article, but for whatever reasons those things arent happening. A lack of common sense in HBOs management seems (to me) to be that reason. They are more concerned with giving past it fighters big fights than the up and comers.

        Comment

        • El Chicano
          Juan Hitter Quitter
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Feb 2007
          • 10997
          • 375
          • 378
          • 17,954

          #5
          Originally posted by gingeralbino
          I agree with pretty much everything in the article, but for whatever reasons those things arent happening. A lack of common sense in HBOs management seems (to me) to be that reason. They are more concerned with giving past it fighters big fights than the up and comers.
          I'm not tracking... Is Lennox Lewis getting a comeback date on HBO???

          Comment

          • gingeralbino
            WAR MAGEE!!!
            Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
            • Dec 2008
            • 7999
            • 224
            • 388
            • 20,405

            #6
            Originally posted by Perro
            I'm not tracking... Is Lennox Lewis getting a comeback date on HBO???
            u think they wouldnt put him straight on in a headline fight if he announced a comeback??
            They'd back Lewis v Holyfield 3 more than Haye v the nipple

            Comment

            • El Chicano
              Juan Hitter Quitter
              Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
              • Feb 2007
              • 10997
              • 375
              • 378
              • 17,954

              #7
              Originally posted by gingeralbino
              u think they wouldnt put him straight on in a headline fight if he announced a comeback??
              They'd back Lewis v Holyfield 3 more than Haye v the nipple
              Ok, but which old fighters are they showcasing ahead of new fighters???

              Comment

              Working...
              TOP