Is it true that Golden Boy stole Victor Ortiz from Top Rank?

[SuckaPunch]

Anybody know if there's any truth to the reports about Golden Boy Promotions (with the help of Shelly Finkel) stole Victor Ortiz after Top Rank first discovered Ortiz and developed him into a fine prospect?

If this is true, then it's maybe bad karma to GBP about what happened last Saturday night.

Anybody know the real story, care to enlighten us? Thanks.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

they're gonna try to send him back....trade him for juanma

[FreshPrince]

Ortiz left Top Rank himself. He said he was unhappy with the fights, money, and exposure he was getting and said Top Rank made promises they didn't keep.

[DC Fight Fan]

It is absolutely true. His manager, Shelly "The Fink" Finkel, instructed Ortiz that his contract with TR became void if he filed bankruptcy. "Fink" had a deal cut with GBP already and instructed Ortiz to sign with GBP for a modest signing bonus. Ortiz's bonus is probably about 30% of what "Fink" got behind closed doors for bring Ortiz to GBP

[DC Fight Fan]

Ortiz left Top Rank himself. He said he was unhappy with the fights, money, and exposure he was getting and said Top Rank made promises they didn't keep.

Not true. He filed for bankruptcy to get out of his contract because Finkel advised him to do so. Fink already had cut a deal with GBP.

[SuckaPunch]

Not true. He filed for bankruptcy to get out of his contract because Finkel advised him to do so. Fink already had cut a deal with GBP.

You seem to know the story, do you know when did this happen?

I mean who was Ortiz' first opponent fighting under Golden Boy?

Do you think Top Rank would've managed his career better?

[mellow_mood]

You seem to know the story, do you know when did this happen?

I mean who was Ortiz' first opponent fighting under Golden Boy?

Do you think Top Rank would've managed his career better?

IMO yes...


victor ortiz buzz was developed in top rank! i think that TR love him or hate him.. is the master developing superstars


look at the recent history

first oscar
mayweather
pacquiao
cotto
now juanma....

the victor ortiz buzz is back from TR....

[ACHlLLES]

Top Rank is ***** ****, same promoting company that won't allow Pavlik to fight Paul Williams or Arthur Abraham. Atleast Golden Boy Promotions puts their fighters in with tests. After Pavlik lost to Bhop, Arum is afraid to put Pavlik in with any other top fighters.

[mellow_mood]

Top Rank is ***** ****, same promoting company that won't allow Pavlik to fight Paul Williams or Arthur Abraham. Atleast Golden Boy Promotions puts their fighters in with tests. After Pavlik lost to Bhop, Arum is afraid to put Pavlik in with any other top fighters.

i hate to say this.. but arum is doing his job....

not that i like how it goes... but thats how the game is played.. and hes the best in that aspect...

still im with you..... because of him. juanma is looking like a *****... but i do know that at the end... he knows what hes doing...

im 110% sure about that

as long as arum lives.. GBP will only be ready to tie THE BOBFATHERS shoes..

[Pullcounter]

i hate to say this.. but arum is doing his job....

not that i like how it goes... but thats how the game is played.. and hes the best in that aspect...

still im with you..... because of him. juanma is looking like a *****... but i do know that at the end... he knows what hes doing...

im 110% sure about that

as long as arum lives.. GBP will only be ready to tie THE BOBFATHERS shoes..

gotta agree... GBP stable is getting thin.