Bob arum tells juanma to not even mention caballero's name

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  • deanrw
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    #21
    None of you have to worry about Juanma's reputation. He will get his big fights and possibly including Caballero. He would chop down Caballero within 6 rounds IMO anyway.

    I'm just so tired of this calling out stuff. That is what happens when a fighter has a ****ty promoter. The promoter cannot get the fights done on their own, so the fighter then screams over the internet looking to place Public pressure on another fighter to fight him. If the other guy does not respond, then this place turns into a "ducking" frenzy.

    You know how they say Pavlik is ducking Abraham? Why would Pavlik duck him? Pavlik has beaten bigger and badder fighters than Abraham has, but Pavlik is the so-called ducker even though Abraham has looked far less than stellar. This is what happens when these call outs happen. Arum runs a tight ship and negotiates tough. He has to maintain control and that is why no Top Rank fighters call other guys out.

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    • Pollo Boricua
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      #22
      Originally posted by deanrw
      None of you have to worry about Juanma's reputation. He will get his big fights and possibly including Caballero. He would chop down Caballero within 6 rounds IMO anyway.

      I'm just so tired of this calling out stuff. That is what happens when a fighter has a ****ty promoter. The promoter cannot get the fights done on their own, so the fighter then screams over the internet looking to place Public pressure on another fighter to fight him. If the other guy does not respond, then this place turns into a "ducking" frenzy.

      You know how they say Pavlik is ducking Abraham? Why would Pavlik duck him? Pavlik has beaten bigger and badder fighters than Abraham has, but Pavlik is the so-called ducker even though Abraham has looked far less than stellar. This is what happens when these call outs happen. Arum runs a tight ship and negotiates tough. He has to maintain control and that is why no Top Rank fighters call other guys out.
      I say this again, I dont care about Caballero calling out Juanma, I really dont give a ****. I just want this fight to happen because right now it's the best thing for Juanma and his future. At this moment the best available fight is against Caballero (not because he is calling Juanma out). Caballero is just a loud mouth and I'm sure Juanma would make him his *****, thats why I dont understand why would Arum just say he is not worthy instead of taking those belts away from him and then going up to fight the winner of Luevano and Concepcion (those are the plans).

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      • Pollo Boricua
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        #23
        But then again that just my opinion, I'm just a fan. I don't want to start a fight over this crap, I think we are all fans of Juanma and know that there is no one that can beat him in 122 or 126 right now.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Pollo Boricua
          I say this again, I dont care about Caballero calling out Juanma, I really dont give a ****. I just want this fight to happen because right now it's the best thing for Juanma and his future. At this moment the best available fight is against Caballero (not because he is calling Juanma out). Caballero is just a loud mouth and I'm sure Juanma would make him his *****, thats why I dont understand why would Arum just say he is not worthy instead of taking those belts away from him and then going up to fight the winner of Luevano and Concepcion (those are the plans).
          Who is to say it will not happen? The fight could be in the process of being negotiated right now. It probably will not happen this year though, maybe early 2010. Not enough money floating around right now.

          Arum just keeps things quiet. He has a history of negotiating with multiple guys at the same time and will then strike a deal for his fighter. Arum knows Juanma is a huge future star and he will make him rise correctly.

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            #25
            Originally posted by mellow_mood
            Let them ask me about caballero, you dont even mention his name hes not worthy!






            bob arum!!!

            but it's what it's

            this fight is not happenin @ least not now...


            “De Celestino Caballero, Bob Arum me dijo que no vuelva a mencionarlo... que le pregunten a él (Arum). Que ese tipo no vale la pena. Que no es un buen negocio, que no lo vuelva a mencionar”
            man **** arum... JML needs this fight to secure his legacy at 122 lbs.

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            • Pollo Boricua
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              #26
              Originally posted by deanrw
              Who is to say it will not happen? The fight could be in the process of being negotiated right now. It probably will not happen this year though, maybe early 2010. Not enough money floating around right now.

              Arum just keeps things quiet. He has a history of negotiating with multiple guys at the same time and will then strike a deal for his fighter. Arum knows Juanma is a huge future star and he will make him rise correctly.
              Man Arum just said Caballero is not worthy of fighting Juanma (bull****, even if I think Juanma would beat him, Caballero is a title holder and would be a good opponent for Juanma at this point)... I really doubt he would be negociating and saying that at the same time.

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              • mellow_mood
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                #27
                Originally posted by Pullcounter
                man **** arum... JML needs this fight to secure his legacy at 122 lbs.

                yeah!!!

                just like freddie is making pac look bad!!!!


                arum is making juanma look bad with this ****!!!

                but wtf.... for somereason hes the BOBFATHER.!! so.. i guess he knows what hes doing

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by mellow_mood
                  Let them ask me about caballero, you dont even mention his name hes not worthy!






                  bob arum!!!

                  but it's what it's

                  this fight is not happenin @ least not now...


                  “De Celestino Caballero, Bob Arum me dijo que no vuelva a mencionarlo... que le pregunten a él (Arum). Que ese tipo no vale la pena. Que no es un buen negocio, que no lo vuelva a mencionar”
                  Juanma has to be smart. He can't say to the media Arum told him that.

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                  • mellow_mood
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Animalistic
                    Juanma has to be smart. He can't say to the media Arum told him that.
                    why not!!!!???

                    right now.. THE MEDIA.. THE FANS.. IS CALLING HIM A CHICKEN THAT ONLY FIGHTS BUMS... THAT HES DUCKING!! bla bla.. etc.

                    i think its pretty fair that everybody knows what is really going on!!!

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by mellow_mood
                      why not!!!!???

                      right now.. THE MEDIA.. THE FANS.. IS CALLING HIM A CHICKEN THAT ONLY FIGHTS BUMS... THAT HES DUCKING!! bla bla.. etc.

                      i think its pretty fair that everybody knows what is really going on!!!
                      Because Bob Arum is his promoter and you can't just throw him to the wolves like that.

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