give ortiz a break, he's still got a promising future

[baracuda]

Well said, also the people who are saying he is a "*****"... they should go in the ring against him themselves and see how long they last... no professional Boxer can be considered a ***** they have balls to get in the ring in the first place.

he broke my jaw when he was 10 while i was in community college...true story!

[PR Boxer]

Well said, also the people who are saying he is a "*****"... they should go in the ring against him themselves and see how long they last... no professional Boxer can be considered a ***** they have balls to get in the ring in the first place.

Damn right, I can't give you any more K but when I can you'll get some because that's what I've been trying to say, people are giving **** to Ortiz don't realize that they are living behind a computer criticizing professional boxers.

[cuba montana]

What the hell are you guys talking about, did you watch the fight? He's got no heart, he quit in a match he was winning. He was lucky that the ref announced it was a cut stoppage after Ortiz seemed to verbally want to quit and by turning his back on the ref he demonstrated he is a fighter with no heart.

He even said he has to re-evaluate everything because he was found wanting against a more determined fighter with experience. If he doesn't show the determination to be a true world champ, there's no point discussing anything about what he talks about and who he's *****hole promoters are........He quit just like De La Hoya.......

What the hell is happening with this generation of Mexican American fighters who don't have the pride of the true Mexican's in them it seems? It's too much of that easy living and a desperation of networks and promoters wanting to endorse every one of their prospects as the next big thing.......Same thing happened with Khan, hyped too quickly but at least the boy has never quit like this punk Ortiz.

I use to love Mexican fighters but these candy floss American Mexicana's bring shame to the honour of true Mexican warriors!

[Spacey1991]

he broke my jaw when he was 10 while i was in community college...true story!

Bull****! Sorry but its hard to believe...

You mean Ortiz?

Damn right, I can't give you any more K but when I can you'll get some because that's what I've been trying to say, people are giving **** to Ortiz don't realize that they are living behind a computer criticizing professional boxers.

Too right, green on its way if it lets me...

The thing is, we can debate about Boxers... say he isn't very powerful at the weight, etc. but we can't call a Boxer a *****... especially when they are fighting at world level, that's just crazy...

[cuba montana]

Oh and fans can say what the hell they like, they can call someone a ***** if they like and I bet I'd **** Ortiz up cause he's got no ground game and I'd just take him to the floor and choke the ***** till he cried like the ***** he is!

[Spacey1991]

What the hell are you guys talking about, did you watch the fight? He's got no heart, he quit in a match he was winning. He was lucky that the ref announced it was a cut stoppage after Ortiz seemed to verbally want to quit and by turning his back on the ref he demonstrated he is a fighter with no heart.

He even said he has to re-evaluate everything because he was found wanting against a more determined fighter with experience. If he doesn't show the determination to be a true world champ, there's no point discussing anything about what he talks about and who he's *****hole promoters are........He quit just like De La Hoya.......

What the hell is happening with this generation of Mexican American fighters who don't have the pride of the true Mexican's in them it seems? It's too much of that easy living and a desperation of networks and promoters wanting to endorse every one of their prospects as the next big thing.......Same thing happened with Khan, hyped too quickly but at least the boy has never quit like this punk Ortiz.

I use to love Mexican fighters but these candy floss American Mexicana's bring shame to the honour of true Mexican warriors!

Okay, Ortiz has no heart what so ever, he quit like a punk...these candyfloss American Mexican's bring shame to the true Mexican warriors...

They are *****'s with know heart or determination...

Hey I got an idea, why don't you join a Boxing club, get in the ring... turn professional, and show them how its done?

[Spacey1991]

Oh and fans can say what the hell they like, they can call someone a ***** if they like and I bet I'd **** Ortiz up cause he's got no ground game and I'd just take him to the floor and choke the ***** till he cried like the ***** he is!

Fight him in the ring, see what happens... we got another internet tough guy here guys... if you love ground work so much, go watch MMA.

[Pullcounter]

Did you know that Floyd Mayweather is the best of all time? Better than Ali, Leonard, Robinson. JK...

ortiz never targeted pac.. it was the delusional mexicans (not all mexicans mind you) talking all kinds of trash.

lol I told them not to rush ortiz or else he'd end up like vargas, but as is, if ortiz followed in vargas' footsteps he'd be blessed.

[PR Boxer]

Fight him in the ring, see what happens... we got another internet tough guy here guys... if you love ground work so much, go watch MMA.

Zelenoff vs. Cuba Montana, who wins?

[Spacey1991]

ortiz never targeted pac.. it was the delusional mexicans (not all mexicans mind you) talking all kinds of trash.

lol I told them not to rush ortiz or else he'd end up like vargas, but as is, if ortiz followed in vargas' footsteps he'd be blessed.

Yeah, pretty important not to put too much pressure on a fighter too early... just like you said Vargas was rushed and my mate who is a HUGE fan of him stands by his opinion that Vargas was never the same after the Trinidad fight. He shouldn't be rushed, don't run before you can walk...